Unions and the Wisconsin Governor

[Conan71]

He did not balance the budget. He made up revenue numbers that show a balanced budget.

Read my earlier post. He is claiming a billion dollars worth of revenue next year that will probably not happen.

Anybody can say they balanced a budget if you get to make up revenue numbers.

Did you say that about the "projected" Clinton surplus?

Did you say that about all the rainbow and unicorn numbers Obama cooked up on Obamacare?

[nathanm]

Did you say that about the "projected" Clinton surplus?

You mean the actual surplus? All $559 billion of it in FY98-FY01?

Did you say that about all the rainbow and unicorn numbers Obama cooked up on Obamacare?

Only as rainbowy and unicorny as the figures touted for the Bush tax cuts and, like all other federal spending, measured on a 10 year horizon when considering budgetary effects. Definitely less rainbowy and unicorny than Part D. It remains to be seen if Obamacare ends up over cost projections like Part D has. It will mostly depend on whether or not the larger risk pool and the required IT upgrades produce the efficiencies that were expected.

Not that anything to do with healthcare will really be solved without far more fundamental reform. Costs aren't rising at 10-20% a year because of new government rules (were that the case, the trend would just now be starting) or any real increase in services rendered. Some argue that much of the excess cost comes from all the money spent on denying care. I know Medicare would be much better off if fraud weren't routinely ignored even when reported, but I really don't know why private insurers are so inefficient.

[RecycleMichael]

He is projecting a 7.4% increase in state revenue in one year. Revenue growth that ain't happening anywhere in America. He also took all the debt (that did also come in part from the previous governor), and wrote new bonds that now last until fiscal year 2031.

http://www.thewheelerreport.com/releases/May12/0524/0524lfbgpr.pdf

Walker didn't fix anything in the budget. He just refinanced it.

[nathanm]

Walker didn't fix anything in the budget. He just refinanced it.

Sounds like an underwater homeowner.

[Conan71]

You mean the actual surplus? All $559 billion of it in FY98-FY01?

Only as rainbowy and unicorny as the figures touted for the Bush tax cuts and, like all other federal spending, measured on a 10 year horizon when considering budgetary effects. Definitely less rainbowy and unicorny than Part D. It remains to be seen if Obamacare ends up over cost projections like Part D has. It will mostly depend on whether or not the larger risk pool and the required IT upgrades produce the efficiencies that were expected.

Not that anything to do with healthcare will really be solved without far more fundamental reform. Costs aren't rising at 10-20% a year because of new government rules (were that the case, the trend would just now be starting) or any real increase in services rendered. Some argue that much of the excess cost comes from all the money spent on denying care. I know Medicare would be much better off if fraud weren't routinely ignored even when reported, but I really don't know why private insurers are so inefficient.

I'm addressing RM, but since you inserted yourself, you are missing the point I'm making that at one point, Clinton's surpluses were PROJECTED and not actual.  Just curious if he was bellowing about projections when it was one of "his" guys.

No one is arguing the GOP-led Congress Clinton surplus didn't exist.

[Red Arrow]

Sounds like an Oklahoma aspiration/sales point - "we are 4th from the worst!!"

You just have to know how to present the data, which I'm sure you do seeing some of your posts. 

It reminds me of the race between a Russian and American car during the cold war.
It was just the two cars.  The American car won but in Pravda it was announced that:

The Russian car placed second.
The American car placed next to last.

[guido911]

I LOVE that video. About sums everything up.

[guido911]

CNN is biased.

Walker raised ten times the money the unions did. Much of it came from out-of-state interests, including millions from the Koch brothers. The only sure thing about this election is that it confirms that whichever side spends the most money usually wins.

Here's an update of the amount spent by the campaigns over this recall.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2012/06/06/gJQAKAyiJV_graphic.html

[guido911]

Why oh why has no one posted this pic before?

[heironymouspasparagus]

You just have to know how to present the data, which I'm sure you do seeing some of your posts. 

It reminds me of the race between a Russian and American car during the cold war.
It was just the two cars.  The American car won but in Pravda it was announced that:

The Russian car placed second.
The American car placed next to last.

50 samples.  Even I just can't see how to make that sound good.  But then, I'm not politician, either - too many good morals.

[Conan71]

Here's an update of the amount spent by the campaigns over this recall.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2012/06/06/gJQAKAyiJV_graphic.html

Hmmm, the Dims forgot all about that extra $18mm spent from "other sources" for their guy.

[guido911]

A "Thank You" to the people behind the recall...

So thank you Mike Tate, Graeme Zielinski , Fred " Loonie " Levenhagen , Ismael Ozanne , Maryanne Sumi , Noble Ray, Charles Tubbs , Joanne Kloppenberg , Segway Boy, John Chisolm , public employee union members, UW TA's , WEAC , SEIU , MTI , AFSCME Council 24 in Union Grove and WI prison guards,. Thanks for the death threats, the intimidation, the bullying, belligerence, thuggery and goonish behavior. The lack of ethics and the failure to enforce rules and laws. Thank you for putting your selfish, greedy motives on display for all taxpayers to see.

Your antics might have made you feel good but they didn't make you look good. They sickened the rest of us.

Thank you Shirley Abrahamson and Ann Walsh Bradley. Your petty politics woke us up. Thank you Miles Kristan for dumping the beer on Robin Vos's head. Thank you University doctors for writing the phony excuses; Madison teachers for calling in sick or dragging your students to the protests without permission. Thank you Katherine Windels for making death threats against the Governor. The noontime capitol singers who taunted Sheboygan high school students. Thank you WEA Trust for raping Wisconsin  taxpayers. Thank you Gwen Moore for your embarrassing minstrel show. And thanks all of you for harassing the Walker  family at their private home.

http://www.livinglakecountry.com/blogs/communityblogs/158162085.html