Unions and the Wisconsin Governor

[guido911]

I know. That is why it is so disturbing.

He clearly made a deal with four of the unions before the election. It was all a lie to make people think he cared about unions.

Care to provide a link to support this assertion. And again, what Walker has done with collective bargaining rights was no surprise to those affected. So stop it.

[RecycleMichael]

You are such an apologist. You stop it.

No, I don't have a link for my assertion. It is my opinion.

I believe Governor Walker is a creep who should resign. Feel free to use this opinion as the link.

[Red Arrow]

Try to avoid the glib BS, just seriously think about it.   But then, you can always count on the RWRE to be unencumbered by intellect.

Nuff said...

[Red Arrow]

No, I don't have a link for my assertion. It is my opinion.

You are usually pretty good about distinguishing your opinon from items stated as facts.  I believe you slipped a bit on this one.

[nathanm]

Acting like a child? What a a hilarious reference. "Children" are those that take their marbles

You could argue that the Senators are acting like children if you like, but the Governor certainly qualifies. He's the one who, despite getting the pay & benefit cuts he wanted, still continues to drag this thing out because of the collective bargaining issue and threatens to lay off thousands of state employees. Not because of a budget issue, but because of pure ideology. That's childish.

[guido911]

You could argue that the Senators are acting like children if you like, but the Governor certainly qualifies. He's the one who, despite getting the pay & benefit cuts he wanted, still continues to drag this thing out because of the collective bargaining issue and threatens to lay off thousands of state employees. Not because of a budget issue, but because of pure ideology. That's childish.

Basing decisions on ideology = childishness? Wow. Now where are those 14 mature dem senators at today?

[nathanm]

Basing decisions on ideology = childishness? Wow. Now where are those 14 mature dem senators at today?

Still trying to justify bad behavior on the part of "your" guy with bad behavior on the part of others, I see. (and choosing not to read/understand my entire post)

How is getting what you need to solve a problem and then essentially stamping your feet and screaming "I WANT MORE!" not childish? What planet do you live on? I'd like to find this planet where we all get to have exactly what we want, damn the consequences. Here on planet Earth, Walker is just being a "doosh," to borrow your term.

Edited to add: And yes, inflexible ideology and strict adherence thereto is one of the defining characteristics of the stage of mental development known as childhood. In the adult world, we adapt to the conditions around us and have learned that issues are rarely black and white.

[RecycleMichael]

But Walker said he has to do this because of budget reasons.

Now it is about idealogy?

[guido911]

But Walker said he has to do this because of budget reasons.

Now it is about idealogy?

Nope. That's what Nate says. I will remember this and the "other" thread. though, the next time you want to trumpet education reform. From what I have read, it's not about the kids, it's about the unions. Perhaps parents in the TPS school district will take note as well.

[nathanm]

Nope. That's what Nate says. I will remember this and the "other" thread. though, the next time you want to trumpet education reform. From what I have read, it's not about the kids, it's about the unions. Perhaps parents in the TPS school district will take note as well.

You're having a serious problem with logic this morning. Would you like me to bring you some Starbucks?

[guido911]

How is getting what you need to solve a problem and then essentially stamping your feet and screaming "I WANT MORE!" not childish? What planet do you live on? I'd like to find this planet where we all get to have exactly what we want, damn the consequences. Here on planet Earth, Walker is just being a "doosh," to borrow your term.

I will look through your posts wherein you criticized Obama for his infamous "I won" comment during the debate over stimulus.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obama-to-gop-i-won/

If I do not find such a criticism, is not your position re: Walker ideologically driven and therefore childish?

[guido911]

You're having a serious problem with logic this morning. Would you like me to bring you some Starbucks?

No thanks Clavin. /childishness snark

[Red Arrow]

But Walker said he has to do this because of budget reasons.

The "reason" for insisting on the collective bargaining is for future budgets, not just this year's.  That's what I've heard but I don't remember the timing regarding campaign vs. now.

[nathanm]

If I do not find such a criticism, is not your position re: Walker ideologically driven and therefore childish?

I can't criticize everything there is in the world to criticize. If I did, I'd do nothing but criticize. You might call the expectation that I would..childish.

[RecycleMichael]

Nope. That's what Nate says. I will remember this and the "other" thread. though, the next time you want to trumpet education reform. From what I have read, it's not about the kids, it's about the unions. Perhaps parents in the TPS school district will take note as well.

Every time you get caught you change the subject or post a video of liberals behaving badly to somehow prove your point.

I don't know if you are ADD, filled with red herring, or partying with Charlie Sheen.