Unions and the Wisconsin Governor

[Red Arrow]

It's easy, really:  increase the retirement age to 67 by the time I retire, say (which will be in 2040),

Actually, the retirement age for full Social Security is already climbing in just a few years.

[nathanm]

Of course not.  That's not the idea.  The idea is to redistribute your wealth and productivity in the name of fairness, silly.

You say that, but current law would require that benefits increase in about 2035 were the cap removed. And yes, under current law more SS tax also means more benefits. If we can the 2035 adjustment (which would actually result in an increase for everyone, not just the over-125k-ers) the demographic crunch would not be at all a problem.

Numerous studies have been done on this and have determined that literally the only action we need take at least for the next 15 years is the removal of the cap.

And Gaspar, the reason we're having this discussion at all is because Reagan and the Democrats agreed that nobody was willing to actually pay for all the government they wanted, thus they spent the SS money instead of saving it.

Back on the topic:

I'm not quite sure how I missed this poll: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/wisconsin/wisconsin_poll_support_for_budget_cutting_not_for_weakening_collective_bargaining_rights

It appears that the governor does not have majority support even in his own state. A majority support cutting public sector wages, but there is not majority support for the governor on the collective bargaining issue. Go figure..it's the union's position that's in line with the will of the people, unlike what a certain poster here has tried to claim.

[Townsend]

You are probably right. Remember this gem from Obama a while back:

There you go

[guido911]

More civility from these poor, abused, and mistreated "working people". Language warning.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=hdaGuz8z8z

Seriously, who hires these morons and why do they still have jobs after they are exposed as vile and abusive.

[guido911]

Union protesters in Ohio disrupt Kasich speech.

I had to laugh at the old teacher whining about her retirement (starts at 1:10). In my book, the moment you start in on the boogeyman Koch Bros., I am going to laugh at you over your stupidity.

[nathanm]

I had to laugh at the old teacher whining about her retirement (starts at 1:10). In my book, the moment you start in on the boogeyman Koch Bros., I am going to laugh at you over your stupidity.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember you yammering on about Soros on at least one occasion.

[guido911]

Looks like the WI senate stripped out the collective bargaining issue out of the budget repair bill and take it up as a stand alone. This bill passed the senate and goes to the Assembly tomorrow.

http://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/45641375936557056

I am going to hang out at dooshbag underground to watch the left's collective heads explode.

[guido911]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember you yammering on about Soros on at least one occasion.

Search my name and "Soros" to find out I guess.

[we vs us]

Ballsy stuff, that last minute backdoor action.  I think there's going to be some major fallout from this.  Not sure exactly what, but it could be pretty big. 

[guido911]

Ballsy stuff, that last minute backdoor action.  I think there's going to be some major fallout from this.  Not sure exactly what, but it could be pretty big. 

You said "backdoor action". Beavis moment over.

I have read that there may have been a violation of the Open Meeting Act by failing to give 24 hour notice. I also understand that the AWOL dems are returning.

[nathanm]

I did not realize Wisconsin was Poland:

Edited to add: I will say this for them..they didn't let popular opinion alter their chosen course:

Sixty-four percent of respondents, including a plurality of Republicans, say public employees should have the right to bargain collectively for their wages. Sixty-three percent, including 55 percent of Republicans, say states without enough money to pay for all the pension benefits they have promised to current retirees shouldn't be able to break those obligations.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-09/americans-oppose-republican-attack-on-unions-in-poll-divided-over-benefits.html

(how many times do you see nearly 2/3rds of America agree on anything?)

[guido911]

Just read that the AWOL dems are staying AWOL. Noted monumental jack@ss says "This is war" after the senate vote.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/09/michael_moore_reacts_to_wisconsin_union_vote_this_is_war.html

[we vs us]

Lots of rumors of a general strike in WI.  From what I can see people have swarmed the capital in Madison. 

[guido911]

Lots of rumors of a general strike in WI.  From what I can see people have swarmed the capital in Madison. 

I heard that as well. I sense that it's going to get REAL ugly up there. Getting the popcorn out.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Aren't they the cheeseheads?  Living up to their name all right.