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Started by Townsend, March 21, 2011, 10:22:14 AM

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dsjeffries

Found the original master plan for Gunboat...

http://tulsagrad.ou.edu/studio/gunboat/gunboatcomposite.pdf

These are all proposals, so I'd like to see the final design of the roundabout/traffic circle (since the proposal moves some of the side streets around).

Teatownclown

Quote from: dsjeffries on March 21, 2011, 03:53:43 PM
Found the original master plan for Gunboat...

http://tulsagrad.ou.edu/studio/gunboat/gunboatcomposite.pdf

These are all proposals, so I'd like to see the final design of the roundabout/traffic circle (since the proposal moves some of the side streets around).

Cool coloring job!

SXSW

Quote from: patric on March 21, 2011, 03:20:17 PM
Construction will begin during the week of March 21 on a street improvement and waterline replacement project that includes three intersections: East 11th Street and South Peoria Avenue, East Sixth Street and South Peoria Avenue, and East 10th Street and South Elgin Avenue. The contractor will begin the project working at 11th Street and Peoria Avenue.

Construction at 11th and Peoria and at Sixth and Peoria will include street rehabilitation - removing old pavement, making repairs under the surface, and then placing new pavement for street surface. Pedestrian traffic signals will be improved at 11th Street and Peoria Avenue and traffic signals will be replaced at Sixth Street and Peoria Avenue.

Improvements at 10th Street and Elgin Avenue include construction of the first modern roundabout in the city of Tulsa. A roundabout is larger than a traffic circle, such as at Fifth and Main streets; but smaller than a rotary, such as at Admiral Place and Mingo Road. Artwork is planned for the center island of the roundabout.

This three-intersection project includes burying some utility lines and installation of many streetscape features:

• Decorative sidewalks and crosswalks
• LED street lighting
• Cast-iron bollards
• Bike racks and benches at Sixth and Peoria
• On-street parking on Peoria Avenue between Sixth Street and 11th Street
• Centennial Clock at Centennial Park near Sixth Street and Peoria Avenue



As exciting as energy-efficient LED lights are, they went with a very blue color for the lights, with a color temperature around 4500K.  That's a shame, because the manufacturer (Beacon) as well as almost all others offer lighting colors much closer to incandescent light.
I dont believe that was a consideration in the initial stages, but once they have a couple of them up they will see what a difference color makes as far as perceptions of safety and "invitingness" go.

Good news is that more "warm white" LED go on the market every week, with colors that are almost indistinguishable from good old fashioned incandescent light:

March 15, 2011...Osram Opto Semiconductors reports that it has set a new laboratory record of 142 lumens-per-watt the efficiency of a warm white LED light source. The LED with a correlated color temperature (CCT) of 2755 K achieves a color rendering index (CRI) of 81..
According to the company, the peak value of 142 lm/W was measured under standard conditions. It was achieved at a color perception that the company says very closely matches that of a classic incandescent lamp.


Good to see they are expanding the on-street parking along Peoria between 6th and 11th.  Hopefully these improvements will spur redevelopment.  The east side of Peoria in that area is perfect for loft apartments fronting the street with downtown views.  It's not in the flood plain either so it's not impacted by the drainage improvements like the areas along 6th and further east around 8th & Rockford.
 

dbacks fan

So does this mean Robbie Bell has to move all the stuff he has stored there?

Teatownclown

Quote from: dbacks fan on March 21, 2011, 04:29:22 PM
So does this mean Robbie Bell has to move all the stuff he has stored there?
Yes....over to the west bank!

dbacks fan

#21
Here are some ideas for apartments in that area.  If you want to Google Earth it, use Central & Portland Phoenix, AZ

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.45996,-112.07377&z=16&t=h&hl=en















Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on March 21, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
Yes....over to the west bank!

He will probably have to clear that with the Israelis first.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

dbacks fan


Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on March 21, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
He will probably have to clear that with the Israelis first.

Palin's already over there.  Maybe Robbie's mom can call her for a solid.

Teatownclown

#25
Quote from: Conan71 on March 21, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
He will probably have to clear that with the Israelis first.

Yes, that's where Birchers go to be reformed! ;)

Just saw the poor owner of the Corner Cafe praying to the media/public that the city will work fast to complete the improvement and hoping that the public will remember they are still there.
Why can't the city show more concern for the small local businesses and complete more area projects instead of dragging them out hop scotching all over the major arterials?

I want a street commissioner form of government.

Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on March 21, 2011, 05:16:38 PM
Yes, that's where Birchers go to be reformed! ;)

Just saw the poor owner of the Corner Cafe praying to the media/public that the city will work fast to complete the improvement and hoping that the public will remember they are still there.
Why can't the city show more concern for the small local businesses and complete more area projects instead of dragging them out hop scotching all over the major arterials?

I want a street commissioner form of government.

Agreed.  At the very least, there needs to be some sort of stipend to help out business owners when the city interrupts their business for an extended period.

Anyone else sick of orange barrels yet?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on March 21, 2011, 07:17:33 PM
Anyone else sick of orange barrels yet?

Sure am.  How about making them Florescent Lavender?
 

ttownclown

Hey, someone stole my identity!  I guess that is what I get for not posting in a long time.

Teatownclown

It was a coincidence. Besides, mine is more descriptive of this town.