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Started by TulsaMoon, March 23, 2011, 12:25:22 PM

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we vs us

Quote from: TulsaMoon on March 23, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
I never rule out what is possible or not anymore. All I am saying is if there is a movement or a plan to try to make this a reality then it should be cause for concern.

I don't have any inside information, you understand, but I don't think you have much to fear from this plot. 


Townsend

Quote from: TulsaMoon on March 23, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
I never rule out what is possible or not anymore. All I am saying is if there is a movement or a plan to try to make this a reality then it should be cause for concern.

There are thousands of plots/movements to do harm to lots of things.

These "scare them silly" whipped up youtube videos just bait people that will fall for it.

dbacks fan

Quote from: Townsend on March 23, 2011, 01:58:55 PM
There are thousands of plots/movements to do harm to lots of things.

These "scare them silly" whipped up youtube videos just bait people that will fall for it.


You mean Alex Jones uses "scare them silly" tactics?  I'm shocked!   ::)

Teatownclown

Man, all the flies are hurling themselves onto this thread. >:(

Conan71

Quote from: we vs us on March 23, 2011, 01:22:42 PM
You believe this is in any way, shape, or form possible?

Who would have figured an entire meltdown of the world financial markets as a result of the manipulation of it by the hands of a very few.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

Quote from: Conan71 on March 23, 2011, 02:12:57 PM


Who would have figured an entire meltdown of the world financial markets as a result of the manipulation of it by the hands of a very few.

More believable if they have access to the power to make it happen.  And actually more believable because relatively few people have to act in concert.  What I gather's being suggested requires such an amazing (and unrealistic) amount of coordination between millions of people . . . it's kind of mind boggling that people think it's feasible.

heironymouspasparagus

#21
All of these reactionary plans are bad for us - by us I mean people who can afford to be here, which cuts out the very poorest and with the exception of the top 1%.  This is a reactionary plan in reaction to the massive redistribution of wealth we have experienced in the last 30 years or so.

Unions are down now.  That's ok.  They probably will come back as people start to get squeezed harder by that redistribution of wealth.  That will be ok, too.

Unfortunately, the cycle of concentration of wealth appears to cause a major meltdown periodically - there have been several people write about this in the past - and then the rich stay rich, just not quite as rich.  But resources free up and the economy starts up again with a more even distribution pattern than what we see today.

The drumbeat that we hear so loudly from the RWRE is that the rich are entitled to pay dramatically less in taxes proportionately than the rest of us because they are "special".  Well, as people start to realize what that really means (including the elimination of the middle class - not promotion; elimination), the pendulum will swing and equalization will occur.  Elected officials will always be corrupt, but if they don't remove the special consideration from the rich, people will elect another and another until there are ones that do.

You DO have more to fear from JP Morgan and AIG than you do from this guy.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on March 23, 2011, 06:39:30 PM
All of these reactionary plans are bad for us - by us I mean people who can afford to be here, which cuts out the very poorest and with the exception of the top 1%.  This is a reactionary plan in reaction to the massive redistribution of wealth we have experienced in the last 30 years or so.
Unions are down now.  That's ok.  They probably will come back as people start to get squeezed harder by that redistribution of wealth.  That will be ok, too.
Unfortunately, the cycle of concentration of wealth appears to cause a major meltdown periodically - there have been several people write about this in the past - and then the rich stay rich, just not quite as rich.  But resources free up and the economy starts up again with a more even distribution pattern than what we see today.
The drumbeat that we hear so loudly from the RWRE is that the rich are entitled to pay dramatically less in taxes proportionately than the rest of us because they are "special".  Well, as people start to realize what that really means (including the elimination of the middle class - not promotion; elimination), the pendulum will swing and equalization will occur.  Elected officials will always be corrupt, but if they don't remove the special consideration from the rich, people will elect another and another until there are ones that do.
You DO have more to fear from JP Morgan and AIG than you do from this guy.

You're slipping or having a senior moment.  You forgot to mention Murdoch.
 

guido911

Quote from: we vs us on March 23, 2011, 02:43:05 PM
More believable if they have access to the power to make it happen.  And actually more believable because relatively few people have to act in concert.  What I gather's being suggested requires such an amazing (and unrealistic) amount of coordination between millions of people . . . it's kind of mind boggling that people think it's feasible.

I do not think this is about whether crashing the financial system is "feasible", so much as it actually being contemplated/advocated by a former union higher up. In other words, its more about the source (a person who is part of Obama's base) than the actual message.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

If one hasn't figured that one out yet, one never will.

But Murdoch is more a political threat, while this is about a possible financial threat.

Besides, am waiting for a little while until there is a whole new bunch of people signed up who just don't realize what Murdoch is.  There may be some amongst them that can learn - especially if they aren't already at that 1% rich level, like all you guys.





"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on March 23, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
If one hasn't figured that one out yet, one never will.

But Murdoch is more a political threat, while this is about a possible financial threat.

Besides, am waiting for a little while until there is a whole new bunch of people signed up who just don't realize what Murdoch is.  There may be some amongst them that can learn - especially if they aren't already at that 1% rich level, like all you guys.







The source of the above post has been located:

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

And that from the lead 1%'er!

When at a loss for intelligible words, find an insult.  Actually, I think that is pretty funny, so I guess it really can't be considered an insult if I enjoyed it, huh?

And that would give a hell of a hit!!  I got some stainless steel sheet metal.  I may have to start fabricating!!



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: guido911 on March 23, 2011, 12:46:11 PM
Here's an article I found at Hot Air.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/03/22/didnt-fdr-execute-a-few-people-for-doing-what-this-ex-seiu-official-is-caught-on-tape-espousing/

"The Left's Goal: to Destabilize the United States Financial System"

How will they go about this?  Vote Republican?  They seemed to have a much more efficient strategy than to try to talk people into not paying their mortgages at a bank.  They got it to where people didn't have a choice not to pay their mortgages.

guido911

#28
Then there is this out of the mouth of Chuck Schumer:

QuoteHe told the group to make sure they label the GOP spending cuts as "extreme."

"I always use extreme, Schumer said. "That is what the caucus instructed me to use."

Someone must have finally told Schumer that the media were listening and he stopped talking midsentence.


Here's a bit more of what he said about House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, according to my notes.

"The main thrust is basically that we want to negotiate and we want to come up with a compromise but the Tea Party is pulling Boehner too far over to the right and so far over that there is no more fruitful negotiations," Schumer said on the call. "The only way we can avoid a shutdown is for Boehner to come up with a reasonable compromise and not just listen to what the Tea Party wants. "

Schumer described Boehner as "in a box," over the budget negotiations.

The four senators came on the call after Schumer abruptly went silent and followed Schumer's script closely.

Coordinating the message is common in both parties, but it's uncommon for reporters to actually hear them rehearsing.

[Emphasis added].
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/03/schumer-coordinates-dem-budget-attack-gop

Buffoon alert.

Here's another take from allahpundit, the title of the post is what I found funny.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/29/chuck-schumer-accidentally-admits-yes-ive-been-robotically-programmed-to-call-republicans-extremists/
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan