Dirt and sod

[Red Arrow]

As long as you have an irrigation system spring seeding is not a problem.  The goal is not to over-fertilize and under-water if you seed in the spring, otherwise you get shallow roots that don't work very hard for nutrients. 

The new varieties of fescue are far more aggressive in root growth and less clumpy over time.  I used to only seed in the fall and get about 75% return in the spring, but in the last few years with Tulsa II and some of the other blends I get near 100% in both the fall and spring. 

Do not buy Pennington products unless you like crabgrass!

We don't have an irrigation system so under-watering wouldn't be a problem.  What is Tulsa II, is it good in shade, and where is it for sale?

[Gaspar]

We don't have an irrigation system so under-watering wouldn't be a problem.  What is Tulsa II, is it good in shade, and where is it for sale?

It's a fescue blend.  Available at Ace and other H&G stores (not the big boxes).  The Crossfire blends are also very good.

Good in shade and they take the heat of the summer very well.

[Red Arrow]

It's a fescue blend.  Available at Ace and other H&G stores (not the big boxes).  The Crossfire blends are also very good.

Good in shade and they take the heat of the summer very well.

Thank you.

[jne]

I had a good return from seeding last fall with one of the Rebel seeds.

[heironymouspasparagus]

TURoby,
Let me elaborate, cause the stuff can be a fantastic thing to use IF you treat properly.

Most of us (unless you are in bottom land near the river) have that gloppy old gumbo.  Sandy loam is ok IF you turn it in to the existing soil - like with a roto-tiller.  If you just put it on top to fill low spots, etc, you end up with a tiny little "pond" area where the sandy loam can absorb water quickly (better than a sponge) and it sits there on top of the gloppy stuff. (even worse if clay near surface).  Nutrients are quickly leached out of the sandy loam, which can make people think they need to fertilize when they don't!  (Most people NEVER need to fertilize IF they leave the clippings on the yard and have a good spring growth of white clover.)

To mix it in, till it, plow it, shovel it, or something mechanical to mix it with the dirt that is there.  Sandy loam is a very good mechanical amendment to gloppy gumbo.  But then you have to sod or seed or something.  Side point; most of the sod you can get has its own layer of sandy loam in it since most of it is grown down by the river.

[charky]

I've always used Kevin Davis for soil. In fact...just had 4 yards of garden soil delivered. He's off of 46th/Mingo. Super nice guy and very competitive on his prices.

[HoneySuckle]

Will give Kevin a call also.

I was reading through about the Fescue blend.  I do need something that doesn't mind some shade.