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2011.03.27 - Tulsa Oilers v Allen Americans

Started by les_stockton, March 29, 2011, 09:26:36 PM

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Quote from: Hoss on April 02, 2011, 10:38:53 AM
Now that I agree with.  Real hockey anyway.  I think the CHL is in trouble to begin with; several teams are defecting either to the lower SPHL or the Juniors (NAHL).

The CHL has screwed them-selves.....I bet they have some interesting meeetings very soon.....
 

Hoss

Quote from: les_stockton on April 02, 2011, 11:59:36 AM
Well, if Tulsa ends up making a move, it wont be the AHL because of the proximity to OKC.  So if we do move from the CHL, I'd prefer the NAHL.  It's fun to watch and not expensive (but not cheap either).

Taylor got an earful from me last night.  This season is the last I'll follow them as long as either of those two has anything to do with the club.  He looked dumbfounded when I said it.

And I WON'T watch Junior hockey if it's the only game in town.  We've had pro hockey in this joint for years.

And I disagree about the move to the AHL.  Look at Houston, San Antonio and Austin and their proximity to each other.  Get Wichita in and we would not be much different.

Hoss

Quote from: Breadburner on April 02, 2011, 12:27:01 PM
The CHL has screwed them-selves.....I bet they have some interesting meeetings very soon.....

Expansionitis.  When they took in all those teams from the SuHL (Macon, Huntsville, Columbus, Fayetteville NC, ad nauseum) they were doomed.  Started with six and never should have expanded more than 12.  They now have 18 teams of which 16 makes the playoffs.  Even NHL beat writers were making fun of the league.  So was I early on.  Well, I still do.

les_stockton

Quote from: Hoss on April 02, 2011, 04:00:47 PM
Taylor got an earful from me last night.  This season is the last I'll follow them as long as either of those two has anything to do with the club.  He looked dumbfounded when I said it.

And I WON'T watch Junior hockey if it's the only game in town.  We've had pro hockey in this joint for years.

And I disagree about the move to the AHL.  Look at Houston, San Antonio and Austin and their proximity to each other.  Get Wichita in and we would not be much different.

But doesn't the AHL have a rule about new franchises can't be within 250 miles of each other, or are there other variables involved?  I admit that I don't know the details of the franchise rules.
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Quote from: les_stockton on April 02, 2011, 04:30:22 PM
But doesn't the AHL have a rule about new franchises can't be within 250 miles of each other, or are there other variables involved?  I admit that I don't know the details of the franchise rules.

How can that be the case when San Antonio and Houston are well within that limit?  Hell, Austin is only 80 miles from SA.  That's about the same distance as us from OKC.

les_stockton

It may be a formula of proximity versus market size; something to do with advertising dollars.
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I'll add that I hope I'm wrong.  I'd love to have the AHL here.  I was just told early on that with OKC getting an AHL team, that it was not likely for us for a few years because of the size of our markets and our proximity.  I'd be curious what the exact rules are though.
I have no love for the current level of hockey we've seen.
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Thinking optimistically, we're going to have to come up with a name for the team.  Wont get the Oilers name.
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Quote from: les_stockton on April 02, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
Thinking optimistically, we're going to have to come up with a name for the team.  Wont get the Oilers name.

I think it will depend on what NHL team we wind up being affiliated with.

Hoss

Quote from: les_stockton on April 02, 2011, 04:50:35 PM
I'll add that I hope I'm wrong.  I'd love to have the AHL here.  I was just told early on that with OKC getting an AHL team, that it was not likely for us for a few years because of the size of our markets and our proximity.  I'd be curious what the exact rules are though.
I have no love for the current level of hockey we've seen.

Proximity and size of markets makes that argument even less valid (not saying you're arguing the point Les, just making mine).  San Antonio and Austin have metro areas around 2 million people.  Houston's MSA is nearing 6 million.  If the AHL is trying to make that argument, just have them look south.  These 6 teams could have their own division for that matter.

bmuscotty

Go Oilers!! 1 more win to advance. Hope they get a big crowd Saturday. Seems like they haven't drawn that well in the playoffs so far at home.

Hoss, if they advance who will they play next?
 

Hoss

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Quote from: bmuscotty on April 06, 2011, 04:35:48 PM
Go Oilers!! 1 more win to advance. Hope they get a big crowd Saturday. Seems like they haven't drawn that well in the playoffs so far at home.

Hoss, if they advance who will they play next?

They don't draw well in the playoffs because they don't have the numbers of season ticket holders to pad the number.

Plus, Lund doesn't know how to market for poo.

And the matchup?  Either Texas or Odessa.  Odessa is up on the Brahmas 2 games to 1.  They could close them out tomorrow night.  Either one we get another home ice advantage (if we advance).  Although we saw what that got us in this series.  Home teams haven't won on their ice yet.  Hopefully that changes for us on Saturday.

Breadburner

Should be easier to sell play-off tickets now that all teams are almost gaurenteed a spot....
 

Hoss

OK, I was wrong.  they don't use strict bracketing, they re-seed after each round.  It gets complicated.

Our likely next opponent (if we win, not putting the cart before the horse here) will be Bossier-Shreveport if they can beat Arizona tonight (last I checked they were tied and BS was up on Arizona 2-1 in the series) which means we lose home ice advantage.  If by some miracle Arizona comes back to beat them in the series, we have home ice advantage again and will play the winner of the Odessa/Texas series.