BCS to Dallas from Phoenix?

[Teatownclown]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/colleges/articles/2011/03/30/20110330fiesta-bowl-ncaa-license.html

love this comment! "The antics of more rich white carpetbaggers. Take a look at the board of directors if you want to know how this happened. Not a single black or hispanic person. Not a single person from Arizona. Just a bunch of registered republicans with their hands on somebody else's money."

[Breadburner]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/colleges/articles/2011/03/30/20110330fiesta-bowl-ncaa-license.html

love this comment! "The antics of more rich white carpetbaggers. Take a look at the board of directors if you want to know how this happened. Not a single black or hispanic person. Not a single person from Arizona. Just a bunch of registered republicans with their hands on somebody else's money."

Your medical grade weed come in today......

[GG]

BCS conducts shallow probe as party rages on

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_bcs_fiesta_bowl_ceo_money_scheme033011

The BCS is not a system to determine a champion in college football.

It's a system designed to continue to allow bowl games to operate and profit from the sport's postseason. It's the single-most illogical business arrangement in sports. Go find another company that outsources its most important and valuable product. Or go ask NFL commissioner Roger Goodell if he'll let you run the Super Bowl and skim 60 percent of gross revenue off the top.

[dbacks fan]

Two of the local sports radio guys were discussing this yesterday, and their conclusion is that this is the tip of the iceberg, comparing it in a sense to McGuire and the steriod scandal. I think this may lead into an investigation of college football across the board. I doubt the Fiesta Bowl investigation will be the last.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/03/31/20110331fiesta-bowl-bcs-stance.html

[Conan71]

Sounds like bowl envy.  I don't particularly care for the BCS system, but I don't see any laws being broken here.  They are free to spend money as they see fit.

""These trips are an accepted practice and do not violate any rule set forth by any regulatory authority," Giannini said. "Until a decision is made that athletic directors traveling to bowl functions be deemed unethical or illegal, these trips will continue because this is where business is done."

Giannini said he offered to resign from the task force, but he said he was told that would not be necessary.

Those gifts could pose an ethical dilemma, said Matt Sanderson, co-founder of Playoff PAC, a group highly critical of the BCS. Playoff PAC is lobbying to dismantle the BCS and implement a college-football playoff system.

"It just shows that any effort by the BCS to expel the Fiesta Bowl is flawed and hypocritical," said Sanderson, whose group has filed legal complaints against the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls."



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/03/31/20110331fiesta-bowl-bcs-stance.html#ixzz1IBqATJGi

[Teatownclown]

Integrity, no middle ground. You either have it or you don't.

[cannon_fodder]

Conan, you're not looking at the full picture.

Gifts to politicians, grafts to decision maker, and horrid spending by a "non-profit" while arguable monopolizing an industry - there are PLENTY of issues there that are illegal under IRS rules and hence the IRS investigation.  They made the legal limit of contributions, then had employees make the contributions and reimbursed them, among other things.  They are under investigation for violating non-profit status rules.  For payola schemes. Paying executives under the table ($600k in cash, $400k in benefits incluing country club memberships, $27k a year in car allotments, $30k a year in birthday allowance money... etc., all not disclosed as executive compensation as a 501c3).  The list goes on and on. And while not illegal, for setting up a scheme for them to make tens of millions from NCAA member schools (colleges frequently lose around $1mil going to the big bowls). 

And hey, guess what came out today - a couple days after the Fiesta Bowl's finances went to government scrutiny:

PHOENIX (AP) - Four state senators in Arizona filed amended disclosure reports saying they received gifts from the Fiesta Bowl as the bowl faces criticism for giving lawmakers tickets to sporting events and picking up their costs for junkets.

The reports were filed by Republican Sen. John McComish of Phoenix, Democratic Sen. Paula Aboud of Tucson and Democratic Sens. Robert Meza and Steve Gallardo of Phoenix.

The four didn't list in earlier reports that they received gifts from the bowl, but now say they each got a gift worth more than $500 during one year.

Strange how they ALL remembered it now that someone is going to take a closer look at the books.  Political corruption is alleged involving the Fiesta Bowl for the past TEN years. Some of the filing say that the gifts included travel outside the State of Arizona, so it wasn't just tickets to the game.  These were a vaguely hidden bribe to keep the BC$ money trucks lining the pockets.  This is from an INTERNAL review, imagine the crap NOT in the 275+ page investigation.
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Go over the big Bowl finances, it's utterly insane.  The Sugar Bowl, not even a BCS bowl, spends about $13million dollars a year - with $8,000,000 of that on running the game.  The Big 12, SEC, and ACC all have conference championship games - at a neutral site they spend between $1 and 2 million putting it together.  Spending $8mil on one game is one hell of a challenge to keep your non-profit status.    The sugar bowl sits on a $23,000,000 pile of cash AND collects about a million dollars in government money each year.

They literally search for ways to blow money.

Yahoo Rivals had a great writeup on it MONTHS ago: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-bowls121808
This isn't new.

And it isn't good for College Football fans either.  It promotes select teams and attempts to keep them as THE teams.  On average each AQ conference team gets $1,660,000 million per year from the BCS Bowl agreement, each non AQ team gets on average $59,000.   When Boise ended the year 13-0 and ranked in the top 10, Iowa State got more than twice the money they did. 

The system is corrupt, often illegal, has faulty results, and robs tens of millions of dollars from schools. Greed keeps it going.



TEAR DOWN THE BOWLS.

The NCAA needs to lay down some rules.  Total transparency for bowl games.  They are doing business with, and supposedly as, non-profits.  Lets see the math fella's. 
OR, admit you are a for-profit cartel and pay your damn taxes while at least admitting you are fleecing the football watching public in the name of "tradition".

[Teatownclown]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576235191915692976.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Let's Be Careful What We Wish For
Our 'Conversion Bracket' Shows What March-Style Madness Would Do to College Football

[DolfanBob]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576235191915692976.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Let's Be Careful What We Wish For
Our 'Conversion Bracket' Shows What March-Style Madness Would Do to College Football

So it's suffice to say, That the good ol boy's know better what we want to see, than good ol competition and quality play when it counts. Interesting. 

[dbacks fan]

I said for several years that Barry Switzer had the highest paid athletes in college football during his tenure at OU.

[Conan71]

CF,

The Sugar Bowl is a BCS bowl.

I was unaware that the bowls operated as a non-profit and what's more vexing is how on earth did they manage to establish themselves as non-profits under the tax code in the first place?

Just curious, does anyone know if country clubs enjoy non-profit status as well?

[dbacks fan]

Just curious, does anyone know if country clubs enjoy non-profit status as well?

Here's your sign....

Tulsa non profits

http://www.insiderpages.com/s/OK/Tulsa/NonProfitOrganizations?page=1&radius=0


http://wimgo.com/tulsa-ok/2011-oklahoma-nonprofit-excellence-one-awards/events/191136


http://www.oakwoodscc.com/bylaws.pdf

http://www.manta.com/c/mm7clkn/the-norfolk-country-club-a-non-profit-corporation

http://www.salisburycountryclub.com/viewCustomPage.aspx?id=65

[Conan71]

Probably safe to assume that country clubs spend a fair amount of money and time wooing tournament and tour officials.  

Just trying to figure out where the BCS bowl series is really any different than other non-profits which handle large sums of money and why there's just now a target placed over them.

[dbacks fan]

I think non-profit has lost it's meaning, and is a loop hole to allow people to bring large chunks of money to spend as they see fit, and has tax advantages on both sides of the equation. Am I being to simplistic in this thinking?

[Conan71]

I think non-profit has lost it's meaning, and is a loop hole to allow people to bring large chunks of money to spend as they see fit, and has tax advantages on both sides of the equation. Am I being to simplistic in this thinking?

I don't think so at all.  Many hospitals operate as non-profit, yet directors are paid quite handsomely and they plow millions upon millions into new facilities which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  The money non-profits spend eventually winds up being taxed as it goes out into the community so I'm kind of "meh" on the whole issue.