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9 Things The Rich Don't Want You To Know About Taxes

Started by Teatownclown, April 17, 2011, 02:08:31 PM

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nathanm

Gee, I was really hoping for "Asparagus Hall"  :'(
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

heironymouspasparagus

Hot Dog Hollow...

Engineered food maybe.  Oh, wait...we are already suffering with that.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 25, 2011, 09:07:28 PM

Goes to that entitlement mentality again.  




Never thought wanting to pay less in taxes was an "entitlement" mentality.  Thanks for the laugh. And on the subject of entitlements, here is a fantastic takedown on them.

QuoteObama's budget, and it reminds me of the joke where the wife asks her husband 'Should I get a bikini or an all-in-one?' The husband replies, 'Better get a bikini...you'll never get it all in one.'

The budget is out of control because of the thing that Obama says makes America great: Entitlements. Who knew that giving money to the shiftless and lazy is the way we are supposed to measure ourselves?

Apparently America is at the pinnacle of its greatness, because we are giving it all away. I read recently that 50% of Americans are receiving entitlements, and more shocking 56% of illegal immigrants are receiving them. I can understand 10% of Americans receiving entitlements, because Conservatives are sensitive to the plight of the underprivileged, despite the lies from the lunatic Left. But 50% just helps me understand how many lazy Leftoids there are, who believe they are entitled to our money, so 40% of Americans are as worthless as a thong in Rosie O'Donnell's wardrobe.
[Emphasis added]

http://theblacksphere.net/entitlement-is-a-dirty-word/#IDComment145184118
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

He's already got the "less taxes".  And I showed him a way to pay even LESS "less taxes". 

Entitlement mentality is where "you" and "399 of your best buddies" make more than the combined total of the bottom 175 million people in this country.

400    >    175,000,000.

Now, if you represent each one with a stack of $1 bills, you have another meaningless comparison example.

Maybe that 50% has something to do with the fact that they make less than about $11 an hour??  And are below the poverty line? 

As for illegals, well, if they really are a problem, we know what to do about it.  We CHOOSE NOT TO!!
(I am not convinced they are a problem at all yet - or not.  No one has made anything approaching a case on that.)


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 01, 2011, 02:22:32 PM
He's already got the "less taxes".  And I showed him a way to pay even LESS "less taxes". 

Entitlement mentality is where "you" and "399 of your best buddies" make more than the combined total of the bottom 175 million people in this country.

400    >    175,000,000.

Now, if you represent each one with a stack of $1 bills, you have another meaningless comparison example.

Maybe that 50% has something to do with the fact that they make less than about $11 an hour??  And are below the poverty line? 

As for illegals, well, if they really are a problem, we know what to do about it.  We CHOOSE NOT TO!!
(I am not convinced they are a problem at all yet - or not.  No one has made anything approaching a case on that.)




Can someone out there interpret the above for me please?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on May 01, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Never thought wanting to pay less in taxes was an "entitlement" mentality.  Thanks for the laugh. And on the subject of entitlements, here is a fantastic takedown on them.
It is when you still want the benefits of paying taxes.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on May 01, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
It is when you still want the benefits of paying taxes.

"The benefits of paying taxes"? What does that even mean?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on May 01, 2011, 03:22:41 PM
"The benefits of paying taxes"? What does that even mean?
You know, the things the government uses your tax money for. I know you're not as dense as you're pretending to be.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on May 01, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
You know, the things the government uses your tax money for. I know you're not as dense as you're pretending to be.

Everyone has something that is tax funded or deductible that they say NO, that has to stop.
 

guido911

#264
Quote from: nathanm on May 01, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
You know, the things the government uses your tax money for. I know you're not as dense as you're pretending to be.
Oh, you meant "The benefits of from paying taxes." "Dense" fail. ::)
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

Quote from: guido911 on May 01, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Never thought wanting to pay less in taxes was an "entitlement" mentality.  Thanks for the laugh. And on the subject of entitlements, here is a fantastic takedown on them.
[Emphasis added]

"The budget is out of control because of the thing that Obama says makes America great: Entitlements. Who knew that giving money to the shiftless and lazy is the way we are supposed to measure ourselves?"

http://theblacksphere.net/entitlement-is-a-dirty-word/#IDComment145184118

Never mind that Obama's never said anything of the sort, and that your blogger is indulging in a huge bit of moronic strawmanning; the budget is out of control because of: 8 years of the Bush tax cuts, two ten-year long wars, a vast new security state, an unfunded Medicare drug benefit, and generally skyrocketing healthcare costs (which in turn drive up the cost of your hated entitlements).  Oh, and tax revenues are way down because a major recession.

There are wishes and hopes and ideological projections about why the budget is what it is, and then there are the verifiable facts.  I guess it's too much for me to hope that you've been ferreting those out all this time. 



guido911

Quote from: we vs us on May 03, 2011, 10:38:00 PM
Never mind that Obama's never said anything of the sort, and that your blogger is indulging in a huge bit of moronic strawmanning; the budget is out of control because of: 8 years of the Bush tax cuts, two ten-year long wars, a vast new security state, an unfunded Medicare drug benefit, and generally skyrocketing healthcare costs (which in turn drive up the cost of your hated entitlements).  Oh, and tax revenues are way down because a major recession.

There are wishes and hopes and ideological projections about why the budget is what it is, and then there are the verifiable facts.  I guess it's too much for me to hope that you've been ferreting those out all this time. 




It's Bush's fault. Got it.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

#267
Quote from: guido911 on May 03, 2011, 10:41:28 PM
It's Bush's fault. Got it.

So you've been doing your reading then?

EDIT:  Ok, to break it down:  Bush tax cuts ----> introduced and passed by Bush.  2 ten year long wars ------> both started by Bush (regardless of whether you think either or both were right to pursue).  Tens of billions in new security spending --------> brainchild of the Bush Administration.  Unfunded Medicare Part D -------->  Bush.  None of these things were mitigated by increases in revenue or decreases in spending elsewhere.  We just had to figure out how to pay for 'em at a later date.

I'm more than willing to concede that neither skyrocketing healthcare costs and reduced tax revenues from the recession are Bush's fault. 

And please, if I'm wrong please point out where.

guido911

Quote from: we vs us on May 03, 2011, 10:43:10 PM
So you've been doing your reading then?
I have. This is the first time I have ever heard the "It's Bush's fault" meme. Here are Obama's comments, which I disagree are plainly NOT "that Obama's never said anything of the sort".

QuoteThere but for the grace of God go I,' we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities," Obama said. "We are a better country because of these commitments. I'll go further – we would not be a great country without those commitments.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-we-would-not-be-great-country-with

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Quote from: we vs us on May 03, 2011, 10:43:10 PM
So you've been doing your reading then?

EDIT:  Ok, to break it down:  Bush tax cuts ----> introduced and passed by Bush.  2 ten year long wars ------> both started by Bush (regardless of whether you think either or both were right to pursue).  Tens of billions in new security spending --------> brainchild of the Bush Administration.  Unfunded Medicare Part D -------->  Bush.  None of these things were mitigated by increases in revenue or decreases in spending elsewhere.  We just had to figure out how to pay for 'em at a later date.

I'm more than willing to concede that neither skyrocketing healthcare costs and reduced tax revenues from the recession are Bush's fault. 

And please, if I'm wrong please point out where.

Plus unprecedented natural disasters...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan