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Started by SXSW, April 26, 2011, 10:00:54 AM

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SXSW

Hopefully they can get this streetscape funded...unfortunately doesn't include upgrading sidewalks and crosswalks.  The area could use some street trees too, especially where those planter beds are shown.  Maybe Phase II can include those things.



La Madeleine will also open a Tulsa location at 15th & St. Louis in November.  Mi Cocina will open in August.  Both are nice additions even if they are regional chains.    They both bring something different to our market.  Funny thing is last time I was in Dallas I went to both, Mi Cocina for dinner and La Madeleine for breakfast.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20110426_16_A9_CUTLIN162807
 

Conan71

Quote from: SXSW on April 26, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
Hopefully they can get this streetscape funded...unfortunately doesn't include upgrading sidewalks and crosswalks.  The area could use some street trees too, especially where those planter beds are shown.  Maybe Phase II can include those things.



La Madeleine will also open a Tulsa location at 15th & St. Louis in November.  Mi Cocina will open in August.  Both are nice additions even if they are regional chains.    They both bring something different to our market.  Funny thing is last time I was in Dallas I went to both, Mi Cocina for dinner and La Madeleine for breakfast.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20110426_16_A9_CUTLIN162807

I was wondering why you hadn't posted this yet, it's right up your alley  ;)
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They really went all out on motorcycle parking....

rdj

The article stated the building where La Madeleine is going is currently occupied by three local businesses.  I love progress but hate seeing a local shopping district being overrun by local shops.  I hope Cherry Street maintains a good mix of local and national tenants.  I would hate to see an influx of national tenants causing issues with the multiple events & festivals that call Cherry Street home.  According to Google Street View this building was occupied by LaDonna's Fine Foods, Boston Artists Gallery and Clausen Gallery.  I'm 99% sure LaDonna's has moved a few blocks east.  I can't recall what the other stores are in that building.  Anyone else know?  Did the building owner terminate leases or where they are on month to month?
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tulsa1603

I'm glad they're giving up the part time traffic lanes.  They have never worked.  I realllllly wish something like this could happen on 15th between the BA and Harvard.  Originally, there was on street parking, I don't know when it was removed, sometime since the 1960's.  There are all sorts of buildings built up to the curb, but they are all suffocating due to lack of parking.  I've posted about this before.  Those of us in the Florence Park/Renaissance neighborhoods would really benefit from the traffic calming, too. 
 

Conan71

Quote from: tulsa1603 on April 26, 2011, 10:57:44 AM
I'm glad they're giving up the part time traffic lanes.  They have never worked.  I realllllly wish something like this could happen on 15th between the BA and Harvard.  Originally, there was on street parking, I don't know when it was removed, sometime since the 1960's.  There are all sorts of buildings built up to the curb, but they are all suffocating due to lack of parking.  I've posted about this before.  Those of us in the Florence Park/Renaissance neighborhoods would really benefit from the traffic calming, too. 

Agreed.  That could possibly help spark more and better development and attract a wider variety of tenants and perhaps some restaurant business.  Having to park around back or on a side street seems to be a disincentive to shop along there.  It's right in the middle of a very desirable demographic.
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DTowner

Quote from: rdj on April 26, 2011, 10:41:51 AM
The article stated the building where La Madeleine is going is currently occupied by three local businesses.  I love progress but hate seeing a local shopping district being overrun by local shops.  I hope Cherry Street maintains a good mix of local and national tenants.  I would hate to see an influx of national tenants causing issues with the multiple events & festivals that call Cherry Street home.  According to Google Street View this building was occupied by LaDonna's Fine Foods, Boston Artists Gallery and Clausen Gallery.  I'm 99% sure LaDonna's has moved a few blocks east.  I can't recall what the other stores are in that building.  Anyone else know?  Did the building owner terminate leases or where they are on month to month?

La Donna's moved at least 3 years ago.  Wasn't "We Buy Ugly Houses" in some of this space?  As I recall, most of this space has been empty or of marginal use (from the standpoint of drawing in traffic) for several years.  I always prefer local to chains, but the recent addition of chains to Cherry St. is a pretty good indicator of the quality and perception of this area.

SXSW

Quote from: DTowner on April 26, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
La Donna's moved at least 3 years ago.  Wasn't "We Buy Ugly Houses" in some of this space?  As I recall, most of this space has been empty or of marginal use (from the standpoint of drawing in traffic) for several years.  I always prefer local to chains, but the recent addition of chains to Cherry St. is a pretty good indicator of the quality and perception of this area.

Hopefully they can at least keep it regional/local chains and not Starbucks, etc.  The chains that have gone in recently haven't been so bad (Chipotle/Genghis Grill).

I do wish a streetscape with some trees would be added along 15th.  It would help shade the sidewalks in the summer and cut down on the cluttered look the powerlines give the street.  Something like Knox-Henderson (very similar area in Dallas):
 

Conan71

Genghis Grill is a rip off.
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Personally I think Cherry Street needs some of these...

 

stageidea

Quote from: Conan71 on April 26, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
Genghis Grill is a rip off.

Aren't all chains really a rip-off of each other?  How many different yogurt stores do we have now?  Luckily food doesn't have patents..
 

Ed W

As usual, the planning morons cater to motorists by providing angled parking.  Business likes it because more cars can park in the available space.

But angled parking is anathema to bicyclists and motorcyclists.  It vastly increases the hazard of the Sorry-Mate-I-Didn't-See-You collision when a motorist pulls out without looking.  SMIDSY is used as an excuse rather than a straight forward admission of guilt.

Nice, pretty plans drawn up by stupid people.  
Ed

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TheTed

Quote from: SXSW on April 26, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
.unfortunately doesn't include upgrading sidewalks and crosswalks.

You can build crosswalks on every block in town but it won't do any good unless TPD suddenly started enforcing the laws related to crosswalks.
 

TheTed

Quote from: Ed W on April 26, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
As usual, the planning morons cater to motorists by providing angled parking.  Business likes it because more cars can park in the available space.

But angled parking is anathema to bicyclists and motorcyclists.  It vastly increases the hazard of the Sorry-Mate-I-Didn't-See-You collision when a motorist pulls out without looking.  SMIDSY is used as an excuse rather than a straight forward admission of guilt.

Nice, pretty plans drawn up by stupid people.  

Kind of what I was thinking. But everyone else seems to like it. When you back out of those spaces, you pretty much have to start backing and hope nobody's back there. You can't see anything if you're in a car and there's a big okie truck/SUV parked in the space to your right.

Most places I've seen angled parking are much less traveled streets than this. I kind of wonder how that will work. Maybe it'll calm the traffic as drivers realize there's a good chance somebody will be backing out in front of them at some point on their drive down that stretch.

And as a cyclist, it's just gonna piss off motorists behind me when I'm in the left of the lane to stay clear of the backing car dangers.