Cherry Street

[Conan71]

As usual, the planning morons cater to motorists by providing angled parking.  Business likes it because more cars can park in the available space.

But angled parking is anathema to bicyclists and motorcyclists.  It vastly increases the hazard of the Sorry-Mate-I-Didn't-See-You collision when a motorist pulls out without looking.  SMIDSY is used as an excuse rather than a straight forward admission of guilt.

Nice, pretty plans drawn up by stupid people.  

It's never been a bicycle-friendly stretch.  I sure wouldn't ride a bike down that stretch of Cherry St. as it is now either.  Too easy to ride into a car door or have someone pull out of a side street unable to see you because of a car parked on the corner.  Far better off on the side streets or BA frontage road on that one.

[Conan71]

Aren't all chains really a rip-off of each other?  How many different yogurt stores do we have now?  Luckily food doesn't have patents..

No I mean $$ rip-off, not concept rip-off.  $8.99 for one trip through the line, leave a dollar tip for the cook, $2.39 or $2.99 for a soft drink, then a $2 tip for the waiter and you've dropped over $15.00 on lunch.  As well the bowls are fairly small serving sizes.

I'll go back to my burrito down at Chipotle when I want something to eat in that area.

[SXSW]

It's never been a bicycle-friendly stretch.  I sure wouldn't ride a bike down that stretch of Cherry St. as it is now either.  Too easy to ride into a car door or have someone pull out of a side street unable to see you because of a car parked on the corner.  Far better off on the side streets or BA frontage road on that one.

Not a fan of angled parking either.  But it may work here if traffic is slowed down.  I think the effect of wider sidewalks, street trees, planters and paved crosswalks could help, which is why I hope they eventually do those things.

Downtown Norman it's awful because there are 3 lanes one-way that you back into and there is always lots of traffic as Main is a major thoroughfare.  It works better on Asp in Campus Corner, or on Brady/Main downtown.  Cherry Street is sort of a blend of both with high traffic counts but narrower width.

[Conan71]

Not a fan of angled parking either.  But it may work here if traffic is slowed down.  I think the effect of wider sidewalks, street trees, planters and paved crosswalks could help, which is why I hope they eventually do those things.

Downtown Norman it's awful because there are 3 lanes one-way that you back into and there is always lots of traffic as Main is a major thoroughfare.  It works better on Asp in Campus Corner, or on Brady/Main downtown.  Cherry Street is sort of a blend of both with high traffic counts but narrower width.

Norman, for being a "bike friendly" city sure has a lot of asshats who apparently didn't get that message.

[Red Arrow]

Not a fan of angled parking either.  But it may work here if traffic is slowed down.  I think the effect of wider sidewalks, street trees, planters and paved crosswalks could help, which is why I hope they eventually do those things.

Downtown Norman it's awful because there are 3 lanes one-way that you back into and there is always lots of traffic as Main is a major thoroughfare.  It works better on Asp in Campus Corner, or on Brady/Main downtown.  Cherry Street is sort of a blend of both with high traffic counts but narrower width.

I would expect a significant portion of thru traffic to divert to 11th or 21st if it's not too inconvenient.

[SXSW]

I was in Fayetteville yesterday and noticed they have this same parking arrangement planned for Cherry Street all through their downtown area, except with one-way streets.  15th is also a lot busier than any of their streets.  It would be nice though to see the sidewalks rebuilt with the brick pavers at the curb and intermittent street trees...it really enhanced the pedestrian experience there.

Block St in Fayetteville

[ZYX]

http://kjrh.m0bl.net/w/local/story/37225775/

This project could as soon as the end of next month. Too bad it doesn't include a bike lane...

Overall, I like this project, although I have NEVER noticed a parking problem on Cherry Street.

[Townsend]

Overall, I like this project, although I have NEVER noticed a parking problem on Cherry Street.

I like the project too.

We tend to see a parking problem if we can't walk straight to the door of a business in this town.  We've been Walmart trained.

"A blooooooooock?  Oh maaaaaan, I can't waaaaaalk a bloooooooooooock." etc

[rdj]

I like the project too.

We tend to see a parking problem if we can't walk straight to the door of a business in this town.  We've been Walmart trained.

"A blooooooooock?  Oh maaaaaan, I can't waaaaaalk a bloooooooooooock." etc

I attempted to "slip" into the Wal*Mart in Sand Springs Sunday afternoon.  My walk from my parking spot to the front door was much longer than any walk I've ever encountered at a midtown/downtown establishment.

[Townsend]

I attempted to "slip" into the Wal*Mart in Sand Springs Sunday afternoon.  My walk from my parking spot to the front door was much longer than any walk I've ever encountered at a midtown/downtown establishment.

Yes but you could see the door, you never left the premises, didn't cross a street, etc. 

I'm in total agreement. 

When people catterwall about DT or midtown parking I remind them how far they walk to get into the mall and ask how much they'll drive around the lots looking for parking.

I'm a Southie now so I'll have to become one of them but for now I still have midtown blood coursing through my veins.

[rdj]

Yes but you could see the door, you never left the premises, didn't cross a street, etc. 

I'm in total agreement. 

When people catterwall about DT or midtown parking I remind them how far they walk to get into the mall and ask how much they'll drive around the lots looking for parking.

I'm a Southie now so I'll have to become one of them but for now I still have midtown blood coursing through my veins.

Crossing a street is actually safer than a Wal*Mart parking lot.  The cars on a street tend to drive in a linear pattern...the Wal*Mart parking lot, not so much!

[Townsend]

Crossing a street is actually safer than a Wal*Mart parking lot.  The cars on a street tend to drive in a linear pattern...the Wal*Mart parking lot, not so much!

You know that and I know that but...

[AquaMan]

Has anyone else noted that driving down Cherry Street is getting trickier every day? Its much easier to walk it. Adding slanted parking may be an improvement but mostly it is just a minefield of traffic hazards. West bound is the worst. Lanes end at Utica heading West where a busy Panera entertains left turns. Marquette twice a day lefts with pre-occupied busy parents. Left turn at Peoria makes you swerve to the right then McDonalds lefts line up. Add in the bars, restaurants, car wash and visitors looking for same and you have a perfect storm.

They should do drivers license testing over there.

Oh, yeah. What is the purpose for parking meters over there? It must be for city revenue rather than parking management. They can't possibly pay for themselves. Get rid of them!

[davantfell]

Conan71, just saying my wife, our girls and I have never had a bad experience with Genghis Grill "yet", it is one of our top favorite places to go eat and we always leave stuffed.  I am not affiliated with them in any way, just saying we like the place, its prices and the variety it has brought to the Tulsa food scene, for what its worth.

[Conan71]

Conan71, just saying my wife, our girls and I have never had a bad experience with Genghis Grill "yet", it is one of our top favorite places to go eat and we always leave stuffed.  I am not affiliated with them in any way, just saying we like the place, its prices and the variety it has brought to the Tulsa food scene, for what its worth.

Point well-taken, and welcome aboard!  Obviously there are others who like the place better than I do as the parking lot is usually full.  Part of my issue might be I'm comparing it to a family-owned Mongolian BBQ I go to in Midwest City which allows you to use a bigger plate and the prices are a little more modest.