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Started by Gaspar, May 26, 2011, 08:30:01 AM

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nathanm

Yes Conan, it turns out the ocean absorbs a lot more carbon dioxide than was previously thought. It's not a free lunch, though, it's messing up the chemistry and killing off fish, among other things. When I say previously, I mean "in the 70s."
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

And 20 years from now there will be more "previous" thought when the oceans have risen all of a whopping .1"
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on May 27, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
And 20 years from now there will be more "previous" thought when the oceans have risen all of a whopping .1"
So the Greenland meltwater, it is miraculously disappearing?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

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Quote from: nathanm on May 27, 2011, 04:10:08 PM
So the Greenland meltwater, it is miraculously disappearing?

The sound of scientists wiggling:

"Our results lead us to conclude that a future ice sheet collapse, that might happen in Antarctica or Greenland, would have climatic consequences, but the exact impact needs to be evaluated in each case."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110525110155.htm

All based on models which are built on hypothesis.

Melting and accumulation goes in cycles.  Always has.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on May 27, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
The sound of scientists wiggling:

"Our results lead us to conclude that a future ice sheet collapse, that might happen in Antarctica or Greenland, would have climatic consequences, but the exact impact needs to be evaluated in each case we will need millions of dollars of grant money to explore this further."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110525110155.htm

All based on models which are built on hypothesis.

FIFY
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on May 27, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Melting and accumulation goes in cycles.  Always has.
Common wisdom is usually neither common nor wise. The fact of the matter is that we have these nifty satellites that can measure the amount of ice in various locations around the world (more neat things funded by the government!). There is less deposition than melt on Greenland, and has been for years.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on May 27, 2011, 04:58:11 PM
Common wisdom is usually neither common nor wise. The fact of the matter is that we have these nifty satellites that can measure the amount of ice in various locations around the world (more neat things funded by the government!). There is less deposition than melt on Greenland, and has been for years.

And if history repeats itself, it will begin to accumulate at a higher rate than it melts.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on May 27, 2011, 04:58:11 PM
Common wisdom is usually neither common nor wise. The fact of the matter is that we have these nifty satellites that can measure the amount of ice in various locations around the world (more neat things funded by the government!). There is less deposition than melt on Greenland, and has been for years.

I believe a reasonable argument could be made that the common knowledge is now that mankind is causing global warming.  That would make the concept of global warming being caused by mankind unwise.
;D
 

dbacks fan

This DEW Line site in Greenland was abandoned in 1988, and there  was 30 feet of clearence under it.





So, yeah, Greenland is melting.

nathanm

Quote from: dbacks fan on May 29, 2011, 08:20:26 PM
So, yeah, Greenland is melting.
Similarly, there was a lot of snow in Colorado last winter, so there is no drought in Texas..
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on May 27, 2011, 04:10:08 PM
So the Greenland meltwater, it is miraculously disappearing?

No, it's just moving to Dbacks DEW station.
 

Gaspar

Some day this planet will shrug us off like insects and none of our deeds will be remembered by her. 



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