Another Reason to Despise GM

[Gaspar]

Why are the new gas efficient, hybrid or electric cars so hideous? The "leaf" is f'ing ugly and its name is stoopid. I bet its momma is fat and its dad is a degenerate gambler.

They had a Volt at the trade show I was at last week.  Got to sit in it.  It looks cool on the outside, but the inside is for tiny people.

[Conan71]

Why are the new gas efficient, hybrid or electric cars so hideous? The "leaf" is f'ing ugly and its name is stoopid. I bet its momma is fat and its dad is a degenerate gambler.

Nissan's design department seems to be designing ugly for the sake of being ugly.  The Juke is so ugly you have to tape a pork chop to the bumper just to get dogs to chase it.

[Red Arrow]

Heiron..

The family cars when I was young were "full size".  My first car was a 66 Buick Skylark GS (400).  I moved out of the world of land yachts to something a bit smaller (for the times) and with sportier handling.  I had/have no desire to go back to the really big yachts.  I don't want a roller skake with an engine either.

[Gaspar]

I remember the first time I rented a Doge Neon back in the early 00s.  I quickly figured out why they called it a Neon. 

When you got in, you had your knee on the dash, and your knee on the door, and your knee on the steering wheel. . .

[dbacks fan]

They had a Volt at the trade show I was at last week.  Got to sit in it.  It looks cool on the outside, but the inside is for tiny people.

I actually drove a Volt a few weeks ago and found it comfortable in the front driving and sitting in the back as well, and I'm 5'10" ~200lbs. As for the Leaf and that other hideous Nissan shown here, would take either one.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Skylark of the 60s was just like the Cutlass - a compact!  Now, the 1952/1953 Skylark was a real size car!  

There is a 1970 Delta 88 convertible for sale in Skiatook that I looked at a couple weeks ago.  Pretty nice.  Have been thinking about it, but just having trouble with that 8 mpg thing!  So much fun for the few miles I could drive it though!

Also found a VW convertible (about 1972) in OKC area that seems to be reasonable price.  20 mpg is better than 8.


I really thought the Focus would be a bust, but it wasn't bad at all.  In fact, just the idea that I am still talking about it after so many weeks must have left quite an impression.  Kind of grows on you after a while.  Like moss?  Or mistletoe?

[Conan71]

Skylark of the 60s was just like the Cutlass - a compact!  Now, the 1952/1953 Skylark was a real size car!  

There is a 1970 Delta 88 convertible for sale in Skiatook that I looked at a couple weeks ago.  Pretty nice.  Have been thinking about it, but just having trouble with that 8 mpg thing!  So much fun for the few miles I could drive it though!

Also found a VW convertible (about 1972) in OKC area that seems to be reasonable price.  20 mpg is better than 8.


I really thought the Focus would be a bust, but it wasn't bad at all.  In fact, just the idea that I am still talking about it after so many weeks must have left quite an impression.  Kind of grows on you after a while.  Like moss?  Or mistletoe?

We had a '68 Skylark.  Same car as a Chevelle.  I don't know anyone who would call that a "compact".

[Gaspar]

I actually drove a Volt a few weeks ago and found it comfortable in the front driving and sitting in the back as well, and I'm 5'10" ~200lbs. As for the Leaf and that other hideous Nissan shown here, would take either one.

Been a SUV man for too long.  I like my space.

Coincidently, the Scion XB has a ton of space inside, but is quite compact.  My wife had one before we bought a Mazda, and you could literally cross your legs in the front or back seat.  We got about 30 mpg too.  Unfortunately it was a cheap little metal box, and I worried about her and the kids.  The good news is that it was a popular car among thieves and so it didn't last long.

[Red Arrow]

The first couple of years the Chevelle, Special/Skylark, F85/Cutlass, and Tempest were sorta compacts.  Well, they were when compared to things like the Electra, Olds 98, and Bonneville.  By the mid-60s they had grown to mid size.  My 66 was 3900 lb and 116" WB.   I don't know the weight of the Electra 225 but the WB was about 126".

[custosnox]

Why are the new gas efficient, hybrid or electric cars so hideous? The "leaf" is f'ing ugly and its name is stoopid. I bet its momma is fat and its dad is a degenerate gambler.

I don't know, I thought the Tesla was a pretty nice electric

[Conan71]

The first couple of years the Chevelle, Special/Skylark, F85/Cutlass, and Tempest were sorta compacts.  Well, they were when compared to things like the Electra, Olds 98, and Bonneville.  By the mid-60s they had grown to mid size.  My 66 was 3900 lb and 116" WB.   I don't know the weight of the Electra 225 but the WB was about 126".

Corvair was really the only compact Chevy had in their line up.  Chevelle was introduced in '64, along with the up-sizing of the early '60's GM compacts into mid-size.

Basically the ones which had the aluminum 215 V8 or the big 192 four cylinder are what I think of when it comes to the GM compacts.  Buick, Olds, and Pontiac produced them from '61 to '63.  Those were the Y-body platform, '64 on became the A-body platform.

I sorta remember most of that, I did have a little Google help.  My first car was a '68 ElCamino (after my step dad said "hell no!" to a '67 396 SS Chevelle) and I've always had an affinity for the late '60's Chevelles and Camaros.

[dbacks fan]

I don't know, I thought the Tesla was a pretty nice electric

Top Gear did a test of one and found it impressive, but it does have problems.....

[Cats Cats Cats]

There is a BTW graduate working (Manager battery technology) at Tesla

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=54&articleid=20101107_54_E1_CUTLIN48714&archive=yes

[nathanm]

Supposedly there were shenanigans in that test. Besides, it's very well known that Jeremy hates everything that doesn't have at least a V8. (and who would be constantly driving a tesla like that..I drive very quickly, but I can't say I drift on the public roads..)

The model S looks like it'll be pretty darn nice, with an entry price right around that of the Volt (only 250mi range with that battery, though..more range = more money) . I'm not a huge fan of the styling, but it's similar to vehicles many people seem to like.

[Gaspar]

I like the fake windmill about 8' off the road stuck in the freshly cut hay field.