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Debt Debate in Congress

Started by Gaspar, June 27, 2011, 08:45:03 AM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on July 07, 2011, 11:47:51 PM
But then I remember who I'm pondering about...and think of the time I wasted.

Stop thinking.  You'll only hurt yourself.
:D
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 08, 2011, 07:57:54 AM
Stop thinking.  You'll only hurt yourself.
:D

I should learn from my mistakes, shouldn't I?

Gaspar

Kudo's are in order.  The President has canceled a vacation to Montana this weekend to work on the budget crisis!

"He was coming in for a brief vacation, this was all before the budget crisis hit, we were gearing up until last Friday, and then heard from Secret Service it was canceled," Whitefish, MT Police Chief Bill Dial said.

I'm confused though.  I thought the debt crisis hit a couple of years ago.  Couldn't he have opted to "roll up his sleeves" and work on this thing earlier and not let a couple of perfectly good tee times go to waste?  I mean, have you seen the freekin fairways in Whitefish?  He's giving up a day at Whitefish Lake Golf Club and one at Grouse Mountain to work on the silly debt?

I am glad though that he really seems to be serious today when he said "I am ready to roll up my sleeves over the next several weeks."  Perhaps with his unique abilities at the table we can get an agreement hammered out with those obstructionist Republicans, and get back to business as usual (and perhaps get back up there before the spring turf dries up)!



When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: Gaspar on July 08, 2011, 12:55:40 PM
Kudo's are in order.  The President has canceled a vacation to Montana this weekend to work on the budget crisis!

"He was coming in for a brief vacation, this was all before the budget crisis hit, we were gearing up until last Friday, and then heard from Secret Service it was canceled," Whitefish, MT Police Chief Bill Dial said.

I'm confused though.  I thought the debt crisis hit a couple of years ago.  Couldn't he have opted to "roll up his sleeves" and work on this thing earlier and not let a couple of perfectly good tee times go to waste?  I mean, have you seen the freekin fairways in Whitefish?  He's giving up a day at Whitefish Lake Golf Club and one at Grouse Mountain to work on the silly debt?

I am glad though that he really seems to be serious today when he said "I am ready to roll up my sleeves over the next several weeks."  Perhaps with his unique abilities at the table we can get an agreement hammered out with those obstructionist Republicans, and get back to business as usual (and perhaps get back up there before the spring turf dries up)!





"Now, watch this drive!"

guido911

The obstructionists are at it again.

QuoteSens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) warned Friday that President Obama faces turmoil in the Senate and in his reelection campaign if he includes Social Security cuts in any debt-ceiling deal.

The senators said the White House has not communicated effectively to Senate Democrats and they and their rank-and-file colleagues are being frozen out of the process.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/170409-liberal-senators-warn-obama-on-debt-deal?tmpl=component&print=1&page
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Funny how the people who take all tax increases off the table aren't obstructionists, but people who oppose one specific program being cut are.

"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on July 08, 2011, 08:15:47 PM
Funny how the people who take all tax increases off the table aren't obstructionists, but people who oppose one specific program being cut are.


Your skin is getting thin again. I wasn't really making the argument that the left are being obstructionists.

Here's a nice exchange re: raising taxes and the Bush tax cuts. Ignore the story because its from a rightie website. Who won?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/eric-ames/2011/07/08/former-gov-pataki-takes-msnbcs-barnicle-his-strange-tax-math

As for those that in 2001/2002, were not paying the top end rate, nor ever paid it for that matter, if the cut ends it will unquestionably be a tax increase to them.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Teatownclown

Warren Buffet: I Could End The Deficit In 5 Minutes

From CNBC yesterday morning.
"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes. You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP all sitting members of congress are ineligible for reelection."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffet-deficit-jobs-report-2011-7#ixzz1RZv8Q3aP
http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffet-deficit-jobs-report-2011-7

ZYX

If I hear one more word about how this might hurt chances to get reelected, I'm moving to Canada... ;)

ZYX

Quote from: Teatownclown on July 08, 2011, 11:16:29 PM
Warren Buffet: I Could End The Deficit In 5 Minutes

From CNBC yesterday morning.
"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes. You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP all sitting members of congress are ineligible for reelection."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffet-deficit-jobs-report-2011-7#ixzz1RZv8Q3aP
http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffet-deficit-jobs-report-2011-7


I would say that we should make everyone currently in the legislature inelligible for reelection, but we will probably reelect the same kind of people, fall into the same web of lies. This is becoming pathetic, and I'm sick of it. Too bad I'm not old enough to vote.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on July 08, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
Your skin is getting thin again. I wasn't really making the argument that the left are being obstructionists.

OK. How was I supposed to interpret this:

Quote
The obstructionists are at it again.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: ZYX on July 08, 2011, 11:40:13 PM
If I hear one more word about how this might hurt chances to get reelected, I'm moving to Canada... ;)

Promise?   ;D
 

we vs us

Quote from: ZYX on July 08, 2011, 11:43:06 PM

I would say that we should make everyone currently in the legislature inelligible for reelection, but we will probably reelect the same kind of people, fall into the same web of lies. This is becoming pathetic, and I'm sick of it. Too bad I'm not old enough to vote.

It's not the people, it's the system.  How do i know this?  We've been voting the bums out since before I was legal and the same stuff keeps happening. 

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on July 09, 2011, 01:16:35 AM
OK. How was I supposed to interpret this:

As an obvious freakin joke. We have been listening how the repukes were the "party of no" and obstructionists ever since Obama was inaugurated--despite the fact that he had a filibuster-proof Congress. The ONE time the left thinks about defying Obama that I can recall, the filibuster of a debt-ceiling deal, I note they are obstructing Obama and your full on Obamabot surfaces. That was the thin-skinning I pointed out.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on July 09, 2011, 02:47:05 PM
As an obvious freakin joke. We have been listening how the repukes were the "party of no" and obstructionists ever since Obama was inaugurated--despite the fact that he had a filibuster-proof Congress.
a) His filibuster-proof majority lasted all of a few months until Kennedy fell ill.
b) Democrats are not Republicans; they rarely vote in lockstep on anything.
c) Sorry you're so offended I didn't get the joke.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln