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Debt Debate in Congress

Started by Gaspar, June 27, 2011, 08:45:03 AM

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Gaspar

Good news! 
So far this year they have only lost an additional  $567,747,000.

They may actually hit -$10 Billion by the end of the year.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on July 21, 2011, 03:17:45 PM
Hmm, you do understand the difference between a loan and a gift, right?

Yep.

A loan is when I borrow money from my brother.

A gift is when my brother borrows money from me.

Or your equivalent.
;D
 

guido911

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 21, 2011, 09:16:16 PM
Yep.

A loan is when I borrow money from my brother.

A gift is when my brother borrows money from me.

Or your equivalent.
;D


Sage-like.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Red Arrow

Quote from: guido911 on July 21, 2011, 09:21:31 PM
Sage-like.

Add some parsley, ..., rosemary, and thyme and you could be a songwriter.
:D
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on July 21, 2011, 09:16:16 PM
A loan is when I borrow money from my brother.

A gift is when my brother borrows money from me.

Or your equivalent.
Definitely been there.  :P
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

In a resounding "Screw You" to the american people, the Senate voted to table the Cut, Cap & Balance bill.

If you would like to read the text of the legislation without the filter of the media, you can find it here:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr2560ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr2560ih.pdf

It's short, simple and it freezes spending at 18% of GDP reflecting the historic level for revenue.  I can't think of anything smarter that we could do.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on July 22, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
In a resounding "Screw You" to the american people, the Senate voted to table the Cut, Cap & Balance bill.

If you would like to read the text of the legislation without the filter of the media, you can find it here:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr2560ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr2560ih.pdf

It's short, simple and it freezes spending at 18% of GDP reflecting the historic level for revenue.  I can't think of anything smarter that we could do.



Just as Senator Coburn was predicting on the floor of the Senate yesterday, the Senate "boldly" voted: "no opinion"

Nice work dildos.  He's right, no one has the courage in the Senate to vote anymore, instead they block and table legislation because they are all too damned absorbed with job security for themselves.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

Power is nothing till you use it.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on July 22, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
I can't think of anything smarter that we could do.
Unsurprisingly, I'm not terribly interested in doing that given that I don't trust the Congress to vote to exceed the cap when it's truly necessary, especially with a 2/3rds majority required. I'd prefer to institute IRV or some other alternative voting mechanism that could make third parties viable. As long as the current two have a chokehold on everything, we're just going to get more of the same.

Think harder, please.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 22, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
Tell us what you really think.

My thought exactly. Still, pretty funny.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Quote from: nathanm on July 22, 2011, 02:11:48 PM
Unsurprisingly, I'm not terribly interested in doing that given that I don't trust the Congress to vote to exceed the cap when it's truly necessary, especially with a 2/3rds majority required. I'd prefer to institute IRV or some other alternative voting mechanism that could make third parties viable. As long as the current two have a chokehold on everything, we're just going to get more of the same.

Think harder, please.

So. . .the concept of an imagined cap on spending is valuable, while the imposition of an actual cap is not?

I like the idea of congress having to think "hey we can't do that because we don't have the money."
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on July 22, 2011, 03:24:32 PM
So. . .the concept of an imagined cap on spending is valuable, while the imposition of an actual cap is not?

I like the idea of congress having to think "hey we can't do that because we don't have the money."

That always worked for me when I didn't have a credit card or checkbook on me.

What they've been doing is akin to writing hot checks without any consequences for years.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: Conan71 on July 22, 2011, 04:12:22 PM
That always worked for me when I didn't have a credit card or checkbook on me.

What they've been doing is akin to writing hot checks without any consequences for years.

That's against the law? Uh-oh.  Awaiting another breaking news "blame Bush" statement from Obama momentarily. Any takers on the odds he does blame Bush AGAIN?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) -- House Speaker John Boehner has broken off talks with President Barack Obama on getting a budget deal to avert a government default.

The Ohio Republican says the president wants to raise taxes too high and won't make "fundamental changes" to benefit programs such as Medicare.

Top GOP aides say Boehner will now work with Senate leaders on an alternative aimed at averting a market-rattling, first-ever federal default.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEBT_SHOWDOWN_BOEHNER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-07-22-18-01-17

I love the hyperbole in my emphasized part of that article.

Listening to Obama's presser and his whining that apparently Boehner didn't just drop everything to return his phone call earlier today. He's also still talking about not paying our troops and grandma. This is what happens when you elect someone who has no experience in leadership. We have in the white house the pouter-in-chief.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.