Debt Debate in Congress

[Gaspar]

Next time, try something on point.

His post couldn't' have been more on point Nate.  

[Conan71]

No, cuts on planned spending, not increases. It's like you don't understand budgeting.

I understand budgeting quite well.  You seem to be the one grasping.

...and that planned spending has...you guessed it...increases factored in!

You remind me of my ex-wife, she could sit there and parse for hours on end.  Sheesh what a miserable b....

[nathanm]

His post couldn't' have been more on point Nate.  

No, it's completely irrelevant. Nobody's talking about cutting funding for programs that don't exist. The fact of the matter is, no parsing necessary, that the bill under consideration will cut a few trillion dollars compared to present law. Guido's video is complete gobbledygook and Conan's argument is like saying that cancelling the premium channels didn't save me any money on my cable bill. At least he's got a coherent argument.

Edited to add: The military cuts are cuts to current spending, by the way. They cut about $50 billion a year out of the 050 account, which amounted to about 450 billion of spending last year. Having not seen the text of the bill, I can't say whether the drawdown in Iraq will offset some of that or not.

[Hoss]

Why should he...You never have.....

This coming from someone whos tidbits of info are typically google image searches...

[guido911]

No, it's completely irrelevant. Nobody's talking about cutting funding for programs that don't exist. The fact of the matter is, no parsing necessary, that the bill under consideration will cut a few trillion dollars compared to present law.

Bull crap. The troop draw downs in Iraq and Afghanistan were part of the "spending cuts/savings" in Reid's plan. That's what Ryan was talking about in his rant. Here's a source:

Reid's plan assumes a drawdown of United States' forces in Iraq and Afghanistan to save $1.2 trillion. These savings are not included in Boehner's bill. House Republicans are calling this part of Reid's bill a "gimmick" because troop withdrawals from Iraq and Afghanistan will save money regardless of which bill is passed.

http://www.rohinews.com/business-news/boehner-vs-reid-the-debt-ceiling-plans-at-a-glance/

The article does provide a decent comparison between Reid and Boehner's plans.

[nathanm]

Bull crap. The troop draw downs in Iraq and Afghanistan were part of the "spending cuts/savings" in Reid's plan. That's what Ryan was talking about in his rant.

Reid's plan, not the latest bill that just passed the House.

[Conan71]

And, in a moving moment amidst all the chaos and hyperbole, Representative Giffords returned to the House floor for the vote today. 

Very glad to see how far she has come. 

Then Chris Matthews had to ruin the moment by slobbering all over himself talking incessantly about guns and Tea Partiers.  What a self-serving D-bag Matthews is.

[nathanm]

Representative Giffords returned to the House floor for the vote today. 

Great news!

[guido911]

Great news!

It is great news. That there is one tough woman.

[guido911]

Reid's plan, not the latest bill that just passed the House.

That's what I was discussing, Reid's plan. That plan factored in the wars wrapping up as part of the savings Reid was touting.

[Breadburner]

This coming from someone whos tidbits of info are typically google image searches...

Thank ya Barney....!!!!

[Conan71]

That's what I was discussing, Reid's plan. That plan factored in the wars wrapping up as part of the savings Reid was touting.

Why do you bother?  Libs just invent their own reality or parse away the truth until it sounds like reality. 

[Hoss]

Why do you bother?  Libs just invent their own reality or parse away the truth until it sounds like reality. 

Can't be any worse though than Bush Jr not counting the wars in the budgets...

[Townsend]

http://www.ktul.com/story/15191984/inhofe-wont-vote-for-debt-compromise?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Inhofe Won't Vote For Debt Compromise

Washington, DC - Oklahoma's five representatives were unanimous in voting for a compromise to raise the debt ceiling and cut spending Monday, but it's not going to be as easy in the Senate.

Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe announced he will vote against the measure, saying "At the end of the day, this bill allows Washington to continue business as usual in the irresponsible way it spends hard-earned tax dollars.  That is why I cannot support this compromise."

"I have heard from constituents all over Oklahoma, and one thing is clear: they are frustrated," Inhofe adds. "President Obama says he wants a balanced approach. What we want is a Balanced Budget that will mean long-term fiscal responsibility."

Inhofe voted last week for the Boehner plan that included what he calls a more robust Balanced Budget Amendment mechanism and didn't include cuts to the military.

"While the compromise may avoid a short term default, it does nothing to address the tsunami of debt that we will face without addressing entitlements," Inhofe said. "If we don't seriously address these issues, just imagine the crushing debt we will hand our children and future generations."

The U.S. House voted 269-to-161. Democrats were evenly split with 95 voting for and 95 against. The Senate is expected to vote on the measure Tuesdayld

The country folk in OK will believe he was right no matter what could've happened.

[Hoss]

http://www.ktul.com/story/15191984/inhofe-wont-vote-for-debt-compromise?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Inhofe Won't Vote For Debt Compromise

The country folk in OK will believe he was right no matter what could've happened.

Being the reddist state in the country has advantages for our local non-pilot.