Wolf! Wolf! Meh!

[Hoss]

Your observation is just regurgitation of current republican political posturing. I'm up to date on the sound bites, thanks.

Just like I've said; our own little Glenn Beck right here on TNF...

[Gaspar]

Your observation is just regurgitation of current republican political posturing. I'm up to date on the sound bites, thanks.

What sound bites?  I think most of the Republican talking heads were flaberghasted by the president's statement about not paying SS and veteran's checks.

The only people who seemed to be unconcerned were the actual public.  That surprised me and I think it surprised the media too.  They tried to make such a big deal of his comments.  Republicans were foaming and talk-radio was on fire, but no one seemed to care.

There were no veterans marching on the capital steps.  No AARP petitions.  It just hit like a puff of hot air.

Three years is a long time to live under crisis (4 if you count the campaign).  It seems that the people just don't have the adrenalin left to meet outrage with outrage.

[Breadburner]

What sound bites?  I think most of the Republican talking heads were flaberghasted by the president's statement about not paying SS and veteran's checks.

The only people who seemed to be unconcerned were the actual public.  That surprised me and I think it surprised the media too.  They tried to make such a big deal of his comments.  Republicans were foaming and talk-radio was on fire, but no one seemed to care.

There were no veterans marching on the capital steps.  No AARP petitions.  It just hit like a puff of hot air.

Three years is a long time to live under crisis (4 if you count the campaign).  It seems that the people just don't have the adrenalin left to meet outrage with outrage.

Not many people take him seriously anymore they know he is full of smile....

[Gaspar]

Not many people take him seriously anymore they know he is full of smile....

That in itself is sad. 

[Breadburner]

That in itself is sad. 

You can only cry wolf so many times......

[Conan71]

What sound bites?  I think most of the Republican talking heads were flaberghasted by the president's statement about not paying SS and veteran's checks.

The only people who seemed to be unconcerned were the actual public.  That surprised me and I think it surprised the media too.  They tried to make such a big deal of his comments.  Republicans were foaming and talk-radio was on fire, but no one seemed to care.

There were no veterans marching on the capital steps.  No AARP petitions.  It just hit like a puff of hot air.

Three years is a long time to live under crisis (4 if you count the campaign).  It seems that the people just don't have the adrenalin left to meet outrage with outrage.

The AARLP has started the perp walk with commercials warning Washington not to mess with retirement and health benefits already paid for.  Saw one last night.

[guido911]

You can only cry wolf so many times......

Not in Obama's world. It's his policy. 

[Gaspar]

He needs to stop acting as a community organizer and be prepared to make some decisions not based on the manipulation of the emotions of others.  I think that's what hurts him in negotiations with Republicans.  They have a hard time taking him seriously.

I have a good friend who is like this.  If you ask him about anything you can't get a straight answer.  Every response must be constructed.

The president has lived so long in this manner that it may be impossible for him to adopt a simple position on anything.  I think this may be why he likes to offer broad frameworks and avoid details.  Details require that you settle on a position, and when you settle, you become vulnerable to that stance.  Well. . .you can only play that game so long.  Eventually he will have to take a leadership role.

[Conan71]

He needs to stop acting as a community organizer and be prepared to make some decisions not based on the manipulation of the emotions of others.  I think that's what hurts him in negotiations with Republicans.  They have a hard time taking him seriously.

I have a good friend who is like this.  If you ask him about anything you can't get a straight answer.  Every response must be constructed.

The president has lived so long in this manner that it may be impossible for him to adopt a simple position on anything.  I think this may be why he likes to offer broad frameworks and avoid details.  Details require that you settle on a position, and when you settle, you become vulnerable to that stance.  Well. . .you can only play that game so long.  Eventually he will have to take a leadership role.

Yeah, but he's such a great speaker.

I think he would have been an excellent evening news anchor.  He wouldn't have to construct opinions, wouldn't have to make any tough decisions, hell he wouldn't even have to show any sort of value system, just read the teleprompter.

[carltonplace]

I have a good friend who is like this.  If you ask him about anything you can't get a straight answer.  Every response must be constructed.

Heard any interviews with Cliff Sterns or Grover Nordquist lately? Neither one of these guys will give a straight answer to a straight question.

That's politics: Be as evasive as possible and repeat the same mantras over and over again ever more loudly. If that fails blame the other side. 

[Conan71]

Heard any interviews with Cliff Sterns or Grover Nordquist lately? Neither one of these guys will give a straight answer to a straight question.

That's politics: Be as evasive as possible and repeat the same mantras over and over again ever more loudly. If that fails blame the other side. 

I love how Norquist is against ethanol subsidies (or tax breaks) because they equate to a tax increase.  Is anyone still taking him serious these days?  I mean other than his therapist?

[nathanm]

You seem to justify the failings of your party or favored political figure by pointing to the other party's or said politicians predecessor(s) failings.  Why not expect or want a higher standard out of your own party?

There is this concept called 'tilting at windmills.' I have better uses of my mental energy than taking on nearly every media outlet and every public figure, all of whom use fear to sell whatever it is they're peddling. Churches, government, business, everyone.

Nobody should do it, but everyone does. (and why not, it has been working for more than 200 years now!) I was disputing the entire idea of Gaspar's idiotic post by pointing that out. In this case, as in many others, politics is just a reflection of society at large. Blaming Obama for using the language nearly every one of us speaks in every day is like blaming a fish for being wet. Stupid fish, being all wet and slimy.

[Conan71]

There is this concept called 'tilting at windmills.' I have better uses of my mental energy than taking on nearly every media outlet and every public figure, all of whom use fear to sell whatever it is they're peddling. Churches, government, business, everyone.

Nobody should do it, but everyone does. (and why not, it has been working for more than 200 years now!) I was disputing the entire idea of Gaspar's idiotic post by pointing that out. In this case, as in many others, politics is just a reflection of society at large. Blaming Obama for using the language nearly every one of us speaks in every day is like blaming a fish for being wet. Stupid fish, being all wet and slimy.

I believe we need to hold leaders to a higher standard, especially when they know they are exaggerating or outright lying so they can appeal to their power base.

[nathanm]

when they know they are exaggerating or outright lying so they can appeal to their power base.

That's what's happening essentially all of the time. (There are rare exceptions, but they're...rare)

[Conan71]

That's what's happening essentially all of the time. (There are rare exceptions, but they're...rare)

Do you find that acceptable?  I sure don't.