Unemployment is the Best Way to Create Jobs

[Gaspar]

But where are all those stellar results from the Bush era job bills??  And massive tax cuts - you remember those - the largest boon to the richest in the history of the world?

Yeah,...why are we stuck on 9% unemployment with all that has been done to stimulate and thrill small business AND large??

We are stuck at 9% because businesses are afraid to make an investment in human capital.  Ask them why.

Of course you already know the answer.

[Red Arrow]

Yeah,...why are we stuck on 9% unemployment with all that has been done to stimulate and thrill small business AND large??

According to many on the left, it's all because everyone on the right of far left wants the country and president to fail.  I don't buy that though.

[we vs us]

We are stuck at 9% because businesses are afraid to make an investment in human capital.  Ask them why.

Of course you already know the answer.

Yep.  Weak demand. 

[heironymouspasparagus]

According to many on the left, it's all because everyone on the right of far left wants the country and president to fail.  I don't buy that though.

Have you ever listened to Limbaugh and Hannity??  That is exactly what they said for a very long time.

[Red Arrow]

Have you ever listened to Limbaugh and Hannity??  That is exactly what they said for a very long time.

Limbaugh is on the air while I am earning a living so I rarely hear him in anything other than a sound bite.

I listen to Hannity occasionally.  Hannity obviously disagrees with almost everything Obama does however disagreement is not the same as wishing him to fail.  Allowing Obama to implement all the policies Obama wants without comment against them that Hannity believes would trash the country would be the path to letting Obama fail as a President.  Wishing to have a new president in 2013 is not the same as wishing Obama to fail, except for winning the next election.

[Gaspar]

I don't think it's necessary to "wish Obama to fail."  It seems he has that under control for himself.

The hope is that in allowing him to act as a proglodite won't destroy the economy. Through his first two years he had a congress willing to comply to his agenda of progressive spending, and the contraction of the economy in the face of perceived stimulus is what resulted.  With continued uncertainty as a secondary result, even in lue of expanding profits, and reduced competition base.  

I hate to admit it but most of the businesses I work with admit they are waiting until after the election and/or after the repeal of destructive legislation to make any expansion to workforce.  Why??  Because they have absolutely no mechanism to forecast costs, report those costs to investors, or secure funding based on those forecasts.

So, when you make statements that people or employers want to see Obama fail, you are in fact being accurate, but not because of the typical liberal psycho-group mentality that you profess.  

We want to see him fail, because we can no longer afford to see him succeed!

[Conan71]

I don't think it's necessary to "wish Obama to fail."  It seems he has that under control for himself.

The hope is that in allowing him to act as a proglodite won't destroy the economy. Through his first two years he had a congress willing to comply to his agenda of progressive spending, and the contraction of the economy in the face of perceived stimulus is what resulted.  With continued uncertainty as a secondary result, even in lue of expanding profits, and reduced competition base.  

I hate to admit it but most of the businesses I work with admit they are waiting until after the election and/or after the repeal of destructive legislation to make any expansion to workforce.  Why??  Because they have absolutely no mechanism to forecast costs, report those costs to investors, or secure funding based on those forecasts.

So, when you make statements that people or employers want to see Obama fail, you are in fact being accurate, but not because of the typical liberal psycho-group mentality that you profess.  

We want to see him fail, because we can no longer afford to see him succeed!

You realize that is all LIES!  There's no truth in any of what you are saying.  Those business owners are just partisan hacks.  It's the GOP allowing the wealthy to continually rob from the poor and lack of accountability to share-holders which is keeping unemployment high.  Oh, and you cannot hang any of this around President Obama's neck.  Know why?

BECAUSE IT'S ALL STILL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!

[heironymouspasparagus]

Limbaugh is on the air while I am earning a living so I rarely hear him in anything other than a sound bite.

I listen to Hannity occasionally.  Hannity obviously disagrees with almost everything Obama does however disagreement is not the same as wishing him to fail.  Allowing Obama to implement all the policies Obama wants without comment against them that Hannity believes would trash the country would be the path to letting Obama fail as a President.  Wishing to have a new president in 2013 is not the same as wishing Obama to fail, except for winning the next election.

We are talking about explicitly saying the words that they wish him to fail.  And both said those exact words repeatedly.

[nathanm]

The hope is that in allowing him to act as a proglodite won't destroy the economy. Through his first two years he had a congress willing to comply to his agenda of progressive spending,

Please point out the progressive spending binge somewhere in the following chart. I've been looking and looking, but I can't seem to find it:


I never could find it, so I looked here. Still didn't find it:



I did manage to find the neocon spending binge is still going strong, though!

I hate to admit it but most of the businesses I work with admit they are waiting until after the election and/or after the repeal of destructive legislation to make any expansion to workforce.  Why??  Because they have absolutely no mechanism to forecast costs, report those costs to investors, or secure funding based on those forecasts.

Weird. Did they also have trouble making forecasts when fiscal policy changed repeatedly in the 2000s? Didn't the war screw up their forecasts? Why are they suddenly so reluctant to forecast?

Oh, what's that? It's not forecasting that's the problem at all, it's an inability to find lenders?

The Pepperdine University Private Markets Capital Project surveyed 559 privately held businesses and 1,430 lenders and investors nationwide and found that, although the majority (78 percent) of businesses had solid growth strategies, only 40 percent had access to the resources they needed to grow.

Stop making smile up, G.

[Red Arrow]

We are talking about explicitly saying the words that they wish him to fail.  And both said those exact words repeatedly.

Not while I was listening.  As I indicated, my life does not hang on listening to every word Rush or Sean say.

[Gaspar]

Gallup is reporting that unemployment is back up to 2010 levels 8.9%.  Payroll to pop is down to 43% of the population.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125639/Gallup-Daily-Workforce.aspx

[swake]

Gallup is reporting that unemployment is back up to 2010 levels 8.9%.  Payroll to pop is down to 43% of the population.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125639/Gallup-Daily-Workforce.aspx

The numbers not being seasonally adjusted makes them less meaningful. To compare to 2010 you have to compare to the same period in 2010. August 20th 2010 the rate was 9.3% compared to 8.9% so no, not the same. Also, this is from a telephone poll.

That all said, it does look like the employment numbers if not getting worse are at least not see any improvement right now.

Still loving those sequester budget cuts? Isn't austerity great?