Unemployment is the Best Way to Create Jobs

[heironymouspasparagus]

Eliminate Obamacare and deregulate the sale of private insurance across state borders.
Adopt the concepts of Cut, Cap, and Balance, and get our AAA rating back.  
Simplify the tax code (pick a plan as long as it doesn't raise taxes).
Heal unemployment by restoring it to it's previous limits.
Stop talking about businesses and the rich like they are enemy's, they are not, they are goals!
Then if their's time, eliminate almost all government agencies who's name starts with "The Department of. . ."

Eliminate... even though that will increase costs by almost $300 billion.  Yeah, more deficit...just what we need.

Adopt...well, that certainly goes to the script.  All proven failures for over 30 years.

Simplify...yeah, right.  Like that could happen.  There is no vested interest of the richest to be served by simplification.  And do you REALLY, even after all this time think that going back to the pre-Baby Bush tax levels can be avoided??  (If so, you really need some reality juice.)

Heal unemployment... not sure I understand what that phrase means, but probably won't be possible to get rid of NAFTA and all the other "pro-business" items - and that does indeed mean the pro-rich items - that have burdened us for the last 3 decades.  And left us with chronic long term unemployment of huge numbers of what would be blue-collar workers.  If there were any blue-collar (manufacturing!!) jobs left.

Rich - no, not the enemy - just the group of people who have been using their money to buy power and wage class warfare on the bottom 99% in this country.  (You do realize that you are part of that 99% - they really don't want you either, except as 'foot soldier'.)

Eliminate government agencies...yeah, like the drunken orgy of deregulation we have also engaged in for the last 30 years has been SUCH and improvement.  Destruction of vast majority of private pensions in the country.  Steady reduction in pay in real terms for the last 30 years.  MASSIVE increases in the national debt - the REAL hidden inflation that neither side wants anyone to understand.  Yep, deregulation has been a boon!!

Step away from the Kool-Aid!!!

[Conan71]

Eliminate... even though that will increase costs by almost $300 billion.  Yeah, more deficit...just what we need.

Tell me you don't still believe this fairy tale that Obamacare, as passed, will possibly save the government any money whatsoever.  Please demonstrate to all of us the chapter and verse which clearly spells this out.  You simply cannot increase the amount of healthcare coverage available in the country and bring on a previously unrealized risk group without necessarily raising the costs to government.  It takes piles of accounting shenanigans to show anything remotely close to savings.

Obamacare is and will prove to be such a disincentive to new hires that I predict overall payroll tax revenue and individual income tax receipts to the treasury will drop.

Just wait...

And no, that's not gloating.  This whole social experimentation issue that President Obama has is incredibly destructive, but he doesn't give a smile because he's well-employed and his well-being and that of his family is assured for life.  But hey, we've got a great celebrity for President.  It's obvious he understands even less than President Carter did about economics.  

[Teatownclown]

Is that right wing talking points I'm seeing? Has anybody besides me been listening to this on the radio? Did I read this on some blogs?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Tell me you don't still believe this fairy tale that Obamacare, as passed, will possibly save the government any money whatsoever.  Please demonstrate to all of us the chapter and verse which clearly spells this out.  You simply cannot increase the amount of healthcare coverage available in the country and bring on a previously unrealized risk group without necessarily raising the costs to government.  It takes piles of accounting shenanigans to show anything remotely close to savings.

Obamacare is and will prove to be such a disincentive to new hires that I predict overall payroll tax revenue and individual income tax receipts to the treasury will drop.

Just wait...

And no, that's not gloating.  This whole social experimentation issue that President Obama has is incredibly destructive, but he doesn't give a smile because he's well-employed and his well-being and that of his family is assured for life.  But hey, we've got a great celebrity for President.  It's obvious he understands even less than President Carter did about economics.  

You believe the PROVEN LIE that cutting taxes will somehow reduce deficits, increase jobs, and float everyone's boat just a little bit higher!  Proven lie for decades.

I say that it can't be any worse than an even swap.  And that still is better than trillions in the hole that the other policy has given us.

And maybe Obama doesn't understand much about economics - but he does understand orders of magnitude more about it than Bush did.

[Red Arrow]

Unemployment is probably the best way to create new jobs.  If everyone were employed, there would be no one to take any new jobs.

[Red Arrow]

I say that it can't be any worse than an even swap.  

Never challenge worse.

Bill Cosby I believe.

[heironymouspasparagus]

I had a wonderful stint of almost 3 years of not being able to find work, so am very curious where those 40% unemployment benefits are?  I want to move there next time I lose a job.  I got about 10%.  For just a few months (before the extensions of today).  But hey, that 10% was all the incentive I needed to stay on "the dole" and just lounge around waiting for something to happen.


And Gaspar...if you interviewed me, I would make it very plain that I would start immediately after the interview was over, if that was ok - in fact, let's just quit talking so I can start!  As would all of the other 8 to 10 close friends and family that have been out of work at one time or another in the last 5 years.  I guess you are just interviewing the wrong people.  Start looking at someone that has been out over a year.  You are much more likely to find a highly motivated person.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Never challenge worse.

Bill Cosby I believe.

Yeah, no matter how bad it gets, it can always get worse.  And even dying ain't the worse thing that can happen.

But it will have to go a LONG way to beat the Baby Bush years and the adverse effect of same!  And even longer to recover from the drunken orgy of spending and tax cuts for the rich we have endured the last decades.

[Conan71]

You believe the PROVEN LIE that cutting taxes will somehow reduce deficits, increase jobs, and float everyone's boat just a little bit higher!  Proven lie for decades.

I say that it can't be any worse than an even swap.  And that still is better than trillions in the hole that the other policy has given us.

And maybe Obama doesn't understand much about economics - but he does understand orders of magnitude more about it than Bush did.

Hah, hah, hah!  Complete obfuscation. You cannot prove your point so you resort to a canard that doesn't apply to me.

I've stated repeatedly here that paying the piper will mean everyone has to pay more in taxes at some point. But there is a cost to that!

When it comes to the actual effects of higher taxes on employment, just listen to what the corporate types are saying.  They are the ones who do and don't create jobs.  Take a read of why Cisco created a bunch of jobs in Ireland instead of here then get back to me.  That's the tip of the iceberg.

[Teatownclown]

Why should "everyone" be forced into paying higher taxes?^

[Conan71]

Why should "everyone" be forced into paying higher taxes?^

Because everyone want's something out of the gubmint.  Pay up sucka.

[Red Arrow]

But it will have to go a LONG way to beat the Baby Bush years and the adverse effect of same! 

Obama is working on it.

[Red Arrow]

Start looking at someone that has been out over a year.  You are much more likely to find a highly motivated person.

Maybe, maybe not.

[Red Arrow]

Why should "everyone" be forced into paying higher taxes?^

Doesn't "everyone" benefit?

[Teatownclown]

Because everyone want's something out of the gubmint.  Pay up sucka.

Do you suppose some of us are willing to be means tested? Who else here would be willing to forego a portion of what's due if indeed there was financial justification?

What is your opinion of this idea? http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/raul-grijalva-on-job-boosting-bill-and-immigrant-rights-part-1 and http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/raul-grijalva-on-job-boosting-bill-and-immigrant-rights-part-2