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Unemployment is the Best Way to Create Jobs

Started by Gaspar, August 11, 2011, 12:34:40 PM

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Conan71

Quote from: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 12:10:19 PM
It comes from Obama.  Haven't you seen the videos?
;D

Where does the line form for the Obamamoney?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on August 23, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
RA, no. The purpose of a public company is supposed to be to provide a return to shareholders. Instead, most large companies have been redirected into returning as much as possible to upper management, all other considerations be damned.

In the future I will PM you to let you know I am being sarcastic.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on August 23, 2011, 12:15:10 PM
Where does the line form for the Obamamoney?
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It's only available to Democrats.

;D
 

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on August 23, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
Wow!  You guys just see a thread that involves a "unionized company" and jump right into rebuttal without anything to rebut.  :D

Is there ANYTHING here to indicate that ANYONE said ANYTHING about unions destroying Verizon? 

This thread is about the union protesting increases in their healthcare costs as a result of Obamacare.  It has nothing to do with the union's relationship with Verizon. 


So you're admitting that your posts about Verizon were what?

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 12:21:44 PM
So you're admitting that your posts about Verizon were what?

If you would scroll back to reply #63, you may read what was posted. 

My response was not about Verizon.  Not sure what you've been bating at, but don't care.  My posts were related to the union protest at being required to pay a portion of the healthcare increase caused by Obamacare and supported by both of the unions in question.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

we vs us

Quote from: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 12:00:53 PM
You are forgetting that the purpose of a business is to provide employment, not make a profit providing goods and/or services to a customer.  When will you learn?

There's more than one way to skin a cat, my friend.

JeffM

Quote from: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 12:18:32 PM
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It's only available to Democrats.

;D

Yes, because it's only Dems who have pre-existing conditions and children who are in college.  /snark.
Bring back the Tulsa Roughnecks!.... JeffM is now TulsaRufnex....  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

Townsend


nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 23, 2011, 12:13:28 PM
That return to shareholders is the result of profitable operations.  Knock off the contrarian parsing, please!

Well, my point was actually that in the last 20 years or so, the goal has changed from making returns for shareholders to paying ever-increasing shares of the corporate income pie to top management, often by diluting existing shareholders.

There is "how things are supposed to work," "how we think things work," and "how things actually work." You're stuck on the first and second. It's interesting to me that you have no problem seeing the difference when we're talking about government, but have a harder time with it when the discussion turns to business.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on August 23, 2011, 12:34:18 PM
My posts were related to the union protest at being required to pay a portion of the healthcare increase caused by Obamacare and supported by both of the unions in question.
And anti-employee Verizon is whining, while not-anti-employee at&t is not. Odd, that.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 23, 2011, 05:07:27 PM
Well, my point was actually that in the last 20 years or so, the goal has changed from making returns for shareholders to paying ever-increasing shares of the corporate income pie to top management, often by diluting existing shareholders.

There is "how things are supposed to work," "how we think things work," and "how things actually work." You're stuck on the first and second. It's interesting to me that you have no problem seeing the difference when we're talking about government, but have a harder time with it when the discussion turns to business.

Because your version is a total canard
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: we vs us on August 23, 2011, 12:52:55 PM
There's more than one way to skin a cat, my friend.

The cat doesn't like any of them.

:D
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: JeffM on August 23, 2011, 01:35:02 PM
Yes, because it's only Dems who have pre-existing conditions ...  /snark.

Unhealthy bunch, aren't they.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on August 23, 2011, 05:09:29 PM
And anti-employee Verizon is whining, while not-anti-employee at&t is not. Odd, that.

The only reason I have cell phone plan from AT&T is because they have coverage in some places I go that others don't appear to have coverage.  My present roll-over minutes are about 4500.
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
The only reason I have cell phone plan from AT&T is because they have coverage in some places I go that others don't appear to have coverage.  My present roll-over minutes are about 4500.

That would be another reason I have them, although now if I use 20 voice minutes a month I'm surprised.  I have about 5300 rollover minutes.