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Is Sean Sutton Special?

Started by Teatownclown, August 18, 2011, 08:24:55 PM

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Teatownclown

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20110818_14_0_STILLW157935

Is this what one would refer to as setting an example?

Did Sean's "competitiveness" free him from his felonious past or was it just something about our system of justice?

Conan71

If you can honestly sit there and say you've never feloniously acquired, used, sold, or otherwise been in possession, transported, grown, manufactured or otherwise been in contact with drugs then go ahead and judge.

Keeping in mind the incredible waste of money which keeps an incredible waste of humanity behind prison walls, I take this as a step in the right direction in realizing that rehabilitation, not incarceration, or a scarlet letter for life is the proper way to deal with drug users who have committed no other crime.

Get off the high horse...
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on August 18, 2011, 08:47:52 PM
If you can honestly sit there and say you've never feloniously acquired, used, sold, or otherwise been in possession, transported, grown, manufactured or otherwise been in contact with drugs then go ahead and judge.

Does that include underage drinking?
 

Teatownclown

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After many years, don't you think that will be when he has become a great example? Or do you think he's wearing just some thorny crown with a judge's blessing?


Conan71

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Quote from: Teatownclown on August 18, 2011, 09:13:56 PM
After many years, don't you think that will be when he has become a great example? Or do you think he's wearing just some thorny crown with a judge's blessing?



Sean harmed no one other than himself and his immediate family, far as we know.  The one episode which should have angered you and did not, apparently, was the kid glove handling of his legendary (or legendarily drunk) father.  

That episode with Eddie was deeply personal to me.  He easily could have killed other people when he wobbled out of his office and got behind the wheel and hit another car.  That wreck happened within a couple of miles of where a drunk driver ended my brother's life, so complete disclosure, it became somewhat personal as it dredged up some gruesome memories for me.  Ostensibly, that woman still suffers from pain issues related to that crash.  If anyone, Eddie, should be looking at the world behind bars instead of being a poster child for redemption.  A million or so settlement isn't a panacea for someone with permanent nerve damage.  

I'm by far one of the most cynical when it comes to PI lawsuits, so I didn't approach that whole debacle without a very harsh eye cast at the plaintiff.  

There's a huge difference between having an addiction which causes you to get caught doing mail fraud.  Quite another when your addiction nearly or does kill someone else.

I simply think you are demonstrating mock rage because you identify Sean with the Anal Roberts folk who you lump together as being a bunch of Tea Baggers.

My conclusion: Sean deserves a second chance until proven otherwise.  His pop blew his second chance.  Where were you when Eddie was allowed to wobble out of court?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Teatownclown

Not really. You are assuming why I posted this news. It's because it is a victimless crime and Sean should be held to treatment and recovery programs. Not everyone gets the same respect Sean did. Jail and/or felonies should be reserved for what you describe. You think violent crimes need prisons but do we need to create an underclass due to self medicating?

Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on August 18, 2011, 10:15:45 PM
do we need to create an underclass due to self medicating?

No, and I've been patently clear on that point for years on this forum as well.  Perhaps Sean could be a vehicle for change.  I think it's abhorrent how our prison population has quintupled since 1980 ("say no to drugs" anyone?).  Any idea how much is wasted on state and federal budgets every year on common users?  It's despicable.

Now, how many drug users sit in prison who had the other parts of their counts expunged for a guilty plea on drugs?  Counts that amounted to physical harm to others, child abuse or neglect, manslaughter, etc.  

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan