Obama's Foreign Policy

[Teatownclown]

Way to take the lead, Mr. President!

Shouts of Freedom and Joy Ring out in Liberated Tripoli

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Shouts-of-Freedom-and-Joy-by-Press-Release-110821-187.html

[Conan71]

Officially, we are not in Libya, but I'm sure we will get another speech filled with "I" and "me" from our President though.

I'd not heard Gadaffi had been officialy deposed at this point.

[Red Arrow]

Saddam Hussein (sp?) is gone too.  Haven't heard too much joy and jubilation about that.

[Breadburner]

Has he taken a bow yet....

[dbacks fan]

Has he taken a bow yet....

No, but I'm sure we will see fist pumps and hear shout out's about the whole thing.  

[Teatownclown]

Saddam Hussein (sp?) is gone too.  Haven't heard too much joy and jubilation about that.

for 3 trill and thousands of American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's.


Lousy comp, don't you think?

[we vs us]

Saddam Hussein (sp?) is gone too.  Haven't heard too much joy and jubilation about that.

The return on investment really just hasn't lived up, sadly. 

In Libya, for the equivalent of some strong speechifying and a couple hundred mil in military cooperation (ie. drone support) we get to be on the right side of the Arab Spring and look like we even might have helped the rebels fight for democracy.  Obama played this well, IMHO, given his constraints (two wars, budget limitations, etc). 

As money spent on American PR, on shoring up what's left of the brand, it was well spent. 

[Teatownclown]

The return on investment really just hasn't lived up, sadly.  

In Libya, for the equivalent of some strong speechifying and a couple hundred mil in military cooperation (ie. drone support) we get to be on the right side of the Arab Spring and look like we even might have helped the rebels fight for democracy.  Obama played this well, IMHO, given his constraints (two wars, budget limitations, etc).  

As money spent on American PR, on shoring up what's left of the brand, it was well spent.  

but it happened while Obama was vacationing.....

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

[Conan71]

The return on investment really just hasn't lived up, sadly. 

In Libya, for the equivalent of some strong speechifying and a couple hundred mil in military cooperation (ie. drone support) we get to be on the right side of the Arab Spring and look like we even might have helped the rebels fight for democracy.  Obama played this well, IMHO, given his constraints (two wars, budget limitations, etc). 

As money spent on American PR, on shoring up what's left of the brand, it was well spent. 

Except for the whole part about those rebels we are helping now becoming our enemies down the road.  We will never curry true favor in the Arab world.

[nathanm]

Except for the whole part about those rebels we are helping now becoming our enemies down the road.  We will never curry true favor in the Arab world.

As if Qadaffi was really ever our friend.

[Townsend]

We will never curry true favor in the Arab world.

Making some backwoods jackass preacher world news for burning a Koran doesn't help us much.

[Gaspar]

We will never curry true favor in the Arab world.

We cannot.  We may be willing to die for our beliefs and way of life, but they are willing to kill for theirs.

Our philosophies of government, life, religion, and equality make us a threat to their way of life.  We are the fundamental enemy, and unlike western philosophy of "evangelizing" our freedoms, their philosophy teaches only the sword.  

It is in our nature to continue to try, but what a delicate dance it is.

[Townsend]

We cannot.  We may be willing to die for our beliefs and way of life, but they are willing to kill for theirs.

Our philosophies of government, life, religion, and equality make us a threat to their way of life.  We are the fundamental enemy, and unlike western philosophy of "evangelizing" our freedoms, their philosophy teaches only the sword.  

It is in our nature to continue to try, but what a delicate dance it is.

Oh right, and people spewing tripe like that doesn't help us much either.

[Gaspar]

Oh right, and people spewing tripe like that doesn't help us much either.

Did I say something incorrect?

[Townsend]

Did I say something incorrect?

Of course you did.

If we could educate people enough maybe more people on both sides would see what is so incorrect about what you've said.