Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Buy whole chickens that don't have any additives.

Tough to do.  Buy a Tyson chicken and you get one that has been packaged with - their term - "a chlorine solution".  Bleach.  Which doesn't bother me at all - just rinse the thing off - but SWMBO was indignant when she called them to complain about it smelling like clorox.  They said, "No, we don't use bleach....we use a chlorine solution."

Give me bleach over salmonella ANY time!

[TheArtist]

I've got several rabbits hanging out under a pergola in the backyard.  

My dogs are going apes**t trying to kill them and I don't want to have to put another dog through knee surgery from chasing the damned things.

Who's got a plan/advice for me?

Thanks in advance.

Easiest thing still sounds like "Get rid of the danged dogs!" lol  Problem solved.  Bet the neighbors would be glad to be rid of the noisy, stupid, ignorant "ape**t" dogs as well, aaand you won't have to worry about putting another dog through knee surgery.    No mere dog is worth any amount of money spent on surgery, I wouldn't spend any on food either to be frank.  Now a cat on the other hand, deserving of every dime.  Oh, and I don't have mice, or rabbits in my yard. 

[Townsend]

Easiest thing still sounds like "Get rid of the danged dogs!" lol  Problem solved.  Bet the neighbors would be glad to be rid of the noisy, stupid, ignorant "ape**t" dogs as well, aaand you won't have to worry about putting another dog through knee surgery.    No mere dog is worth any amount of money spent on surgery, I wouldn't spend any on food either to be frank.  Now a cat on the other hand, deserving of every dime.  Oh, and I don't have mice, or rabbits in my yard. 

Indoor dogs and the neighbors have dogs as well.  That's not an issue.

You and I are really on opposite sides of the spectrum on this one...except I was raised with cats.  I like cats but not with two mid-sized dogs already in the house.

[custosnox]

Easiest thing still sounds like "Get rid of the danged dogs!" lol  Problem solved.  Bet the neighbors would be glad to be rid of the noisy, stupid, ignorant "ape**t" dogs as well, aaand you won't have to worry about putting another dog through knee surgery.    No mere dog is worth any amount of money spent on surgery, I wouldn't spend any on food either to be frank.  Now a cat on the other hand, deserving of every dime.  Oh, and I don't have mice, or rabbits in my yard. 

The only thing cats are good for are for making sure the cat is in the catipult 

[Conan71]

Tough to do.  Buy a Tyson chicken and you get one that has been packaged with - their term - "a chlorine solution".  Bleach.  Which doesn't bother me at all - just rinse the thing off - but SWMBO was indignant when she called them to complain about it smelling like clorox.  They said, "No, we don't use bleach....we use a chlorine solution."

Give me bleach over salmonella ANY time!

They may use chlorine in their chiller water for sanitation, but they aren't packaging their chicken with chlorine.  It gets a good rinse when it comes out of the chiller bath.  The only thing I'm aware of Tyson packages chicken with is a "chicken broth solution"


"INGREDIENTS:
Premium Fresh Young Chicken. Parts of Giblets may be Missing. CONTAINS: Up to 12% chicken broth. All natural chicken broth ingredients: Chicken broth, sea salt, natural flavorings."

http://www.tyson.com/Products/Our-Products/Fresh-Chicken.aspx

[Townsend]

They may use chlorine in their chiller water for sanitation, but they aren't packaging their chicken with chlorine.  It gets a good rinse when it comes out of the chiller bath.  The only thing I'm aware of Tyson packages chicken with is a "chicken broth solution"


"INGREDIENTS:
Premium Fresh Young Chicken. Parts of Giblets may be Missing. CONTAINS: Up to 12% chicken broth. All natural chicken broth ingredients: Chicken broth, sea salt, natural flavorings."

http://www.tyson.com/Products/Our-Products/Fresh-Chicken.aspx

Getting behind one of their livestock trucks is off-putting.

[Gaspar]

When I was a kid and worked in the meat department of a grocery store, we used to dip the fresh chickens in a mixture of water and chlorox before we shrink wrapped them.  It was required. 

[Red Arrow]

Indoor dogs and the neighbors have dogs as well.  That's not an issue.

You and I are really on opposite sides of the spectrum on this one...except I was raised with cats.  I like cats but not with two mid-sized dogs already in the house.

We have had German Shepherds and cats at the same time for years although we are presently without a cat.  Just make sure any new animal is not an adult. 

[Red Arrow]

"INGREDIENTS:
Premium Fresh Young Chicken. Parts of Giblets may be Missing. CONTAINS: Up to 12% chicken broth. All natural chicken broth ingredients: Chicken broth, sea salt, natural flavorings."

How much sodium per serving.  I think Tyson has multiple grades of chicken.  Mom is salt sensitive.  I was surprised at how much sodium was in the Tyson chicken at Sam's Club a few years ago.

[Conan71]

How much sodium per serving.  I think Tyson has multiple grades of chicken.  Mom is salt sensitive.  I was surprised at how much sodium was in the Tyson chicken at Sam's Club a few years ago.

Dunno Red.  I really prefer it with the feathers burned off, guts ripped out, washed and nothing else done to it.  I'm just not a fan of embalmed food anymore.  It's pretty hard to find any chicken in the store which has not had some sort of "broth", "natural flavoring" (read: MSG or yeast extract), or sodium phosphate solution "to improve juiciness".

Buying boneless breast fillets is almost a guarantee of added salt.  The closer you get to a whole chicken the chances of lots of sodium starts to decrease.

I'm not at the point of raising my own livestock yet, though the thought as crossed my mind.  My whole problem is, I'd get too attached and couldn't eat something I'd raised.  I don't have that problem with veggies though, they don't talk much 

[Red Arrow]

  My whole problem is, I'd get too attached and couldn't eat something I'd raised.  I don't have that problem with veggies though, they don't talk much 

Same here.

[heironymouspasparagus]

They may use chlorine in their chiller water for sanitation, but they aren't packaging their chicken with chlorine.  It gets a good rinse when it comes out of the chiller bath.  The only thing I'm aware of Tyson packages chicken with is a "chicken broth solution"

Part of the final rinse is the dip in chlorinated disinfectant water.  With a sodium hypochlorite solution (bleach).  Just before wrapping.  According to the Tyson customer service girl.

That is what got Food Lion into trouble here - what Gaspar talked about - dipping meat in chlorine solution and a rinse before wrapping.  Great idea.  Just somewhat off putting to many.

[Hoss]

Part of the final rinse is the dip in chlorinated disinfectant water.  With a sodium hypochlorite solution (bleach).  Just before wrapping.  According to the Tyson customer service girl.

That is what got Food Lion into trouble here - what Gaspar talked about - dipping meat in chlorine solution and a rinse before wrapping.  Great idea.  Just somewhat off putting to many.

That's not techincally what they got in to trouble for.  Sure, it was for the bleaching.  But it was for the re-bleaching of already expired meat that got them in trouble.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Dunno Red.  I really prefer it with the feathers burned off, guts ripped out, washed and nothing else done to it.  I'm just not a fan of embalmed food anymore.  It's pretty hard to find any chicken in the store which has not had some sort of "broth", "natural flavoring" (read: MSG or yeast extract), or sodium phosphate solution "to improve juiciness".

Buying boneless breast fillets is almost a guarantee of added salt.  The closer you get to a whole chicken the chances of lots of sodium starts to decrease.

I'm not at the point of raising my own livestock yet, though the thought as crossed my mind.  My whole problem is, I'd get too attached and couldn't eat something I'd raised.  I don't have that problem with veggies though, they don't talk much 

The biggest problem that requires the use of the added "broth" is how inherently dry the white meat is in the breeds of chicken and turkey that are commercially raised today.  Growing at home, you don't need that extra liquid.  Turkey in particular is inedible to me (white meat) just because it is so dry.

[heironymouspasparagus]

That's not techincally what they got in to trouble for.  Sure, it was for the bleaching.  But it was for the re-bleaching of already expired meat that got them in trouble.

And that is kind of strange considering the extra cost of longer aged beef (dry aged).  Logically, it would have made it more expensive and desirable for the more tender aged beef.  Go figure....