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Another stab at liquor law reform

Started by Nik, August 23, 2011, 11:00:51 AM

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Conan71

Quote from: Red Arrow on October 24, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
You can last all winter on ~$200 worth of beer?

He'd be a teetotaler around my house, that's roughly the monthly budget here.  Give or take a thousand. ;)
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DolfanBob

Quote from: Red Arrow on October 24, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
You can last all winter on ~$200 worth of beer?

It probably wouldnt be hard if you dont have any help.
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TheTed

Those 8-10% ABV stouts last a while. Three of them on a Saturday night is plenty. More than that and I'd be suffering some consequences in the morning.
 

TheTed

I hope our Oklahoma breweries are taking note. I'd become an indentured servant at Marshall's if they managed to do something about ABLE.

QuoteJester King Craft Brewery has announced it is suing the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission. The brewery claims that sections of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code violate the First and 14th amendments of the United States Constitution.

http://austinist.com/2011/10/24/jester_king_brewery_sues_tabc.php
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: TheTed on October 25, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
Those 8-10% ABV stouts last a while. Three of them on a Saturday night is plenty. More than that and I'd be suffering some consequences in the morning.

That's why you drink a variety.  Have a few lower alcohol brews and maybe only one of the big beers on any given beer night.  That way you have big beers through to the next shopping trip in mid winter.

;D
 

Nik

Quote from: TheTed on October 25, 2011, 11:33:54 AM
I hope our Oklahoma breweries are taking note. I'd become an indentured servant at Marshall's if they managed to do something about ABLE.

http://austinist.com/2011/10/24/jester_king_brewery_sues_tabc.php

Straight from the brewery: http://jesterkingbrewery.com/jester-king-craft-brewery-sues-texas-alcoholic-beverage-commission-over-beer-and-consumer-freedom

It's interesting. Texas has the same laws as Oklahoma regarding beer and wine sales; breweries cannot sell their beer directly to someone that visits the brewery, but wineries has sell to visitors of the winery. Should be interesting to see how it turns out. If they win, I can't see how that wouldn't apply to ABLE.

DTowner

Quote from: Nik on October 25, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
Should be interesting to see how it turns out. If they win, I can't see how that wouldn't apply to ABLE.

Not necessarily.  Although it appears this lawsuit is filed in federal court in Texas, any ruling would not be binding on federal (or state courts) in Oklahoma, particularly as it would be interpreting a Texas statute.  If Jester King prevails, it could definitely encourage an Oklahoma brewer to file a simliar challenge and the Texas decision could be persuasive, but that does not mean you get the same outcome in Oklahoma.  Of course, that assume Jester King prevails.

Conan71

Quote from: Nik on October 25, 2011, 02:03:34 PM
Straight from the brewery: http://jesterkingbrewery.com/jester-king-craft-brewery-sues-texas-alcoholic-beverage-commission-over-beer-and-consumer-freedom

It's interesting. Texas has the same laws as Oklahoma regarding beer and wine sales; breweries cannot sell their beer directly to someone that visits the brewery, but wineries has sell to visitors of the winery. Should be interesting to see how it turns out. If they win, I can't see how that wouldn't apply to ABLE.

Interesting.  I actually have bought wine at an Oklahoma winery and children didn't get drunk and no one was killed by me driving home from the winery with those bottles of wine in my trunk as I'm sure the liquor lobby is convinced would happen from such abhorrent behavior.

Now for the rest of the story:

Those wines were so dreadful, I doubt if I'll ever drink another Oklahoma wine unless it's free.  We simply don't seem to have anyone in this state with wine crafting skills which are on par with other vintners around the globe.  I'm serious. Yellow Penguin is better than most of the crap our vintners come up with.
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Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on October 25, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
Those wines were so dreadful, I doubt if I'll ever drink another Oklahoma wine unless it's free.  We simply don't seem to have anyone in this state with wine crafting skills which are on par with other vintners around the globe.  I'm serious. Yellow Penguin is better than most of the crap our vintners come up with.

You clearly need to lower your expectations.

;D
 

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on October 25, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
Those wines were so dreadful, I doubt if I'll ever drink another Oklahoma wine unless it's free.  We simply don't seem to have anyone in this state with wine crafting skills which are on par with other vintners around the globe.  I'm serious. Yellow Penguin is better than most of the crap our vintners come up with.

I thought several of Stone Bluff's wines were decent, but Tidal School's stuff didn't really do much for me.
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Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on October 25, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
Interesting.  I actually have bought wine at an Oklahoma winery and children didn't get drunk and no one was killed by me driving home from the winery with those bottles of wine in my trunk as I'm sure the liquor lobby is convinced would happen from such abhorrent behavior.

Now for the rest of the story:

Those wines were so dreadful, I doubt if I'll ever drink another Oklahoma wine unless it's free.  We simply don't seem to have anyone in this state with wine crafting skills which are on par with other vintners around the globe.  I'm serious. Yellow Penguin is better than most of the crap our vintners come up with.

Our hot sun tends to make them too sweet for me.

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on October 26, 2011, 10:13:22 AM
I thought several of Stone Bluff's wines were decent, but Tidal School's stuff didn't really do much for me.

Last time I had a bottle of the Stone Bluff Cynthiana, it had a really weird whang.  Somewhat like what bottled chrysanthemums would taste like.  GHACK!

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

dbacks fan

Quote from: Conan71 on October 26, 2011, 12:14:38 PM
Last time I had a bottle of the Stone Bluff Cynthiana, it had a really weird whang.  Somewhat like what bottled chrysanthemums would taste like.  GHACK!



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Hoss

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