More facts to piss off your republican friends

[RecycleMichael]

I don't know how to post these graphs...

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

They show that unemployment rate when Bush took office was 4.2% and when he left office was 7.8%
When Obama took office it was 7.8%, rose to 10.1% and then dropped to the current level of 9.1%

[cynical]

Just click on the "Insert Image" button above the text entry box and put the ip address of the picture inside an two "img /img" inside square brackets that appear.  The address for this particular image, "http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/LNS14000000_14413_1315504684613.gif" was found by right-clicking on the graphic and clicking on "Properties" on the menu that pops up.

[JCnOwasso]

Oh come on RM, you should know that republican's will just overlook this as manipulating data to tell the story you want to tell.  Or they will say that the only reason the unemployment numbers leveled off were because Bush passed TARP. 

[Cats Cats Cats]

You lost them at the word facts.

[Conan71]

I don't know how to post these graphs...

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

They show that unemployment rate when Bush took office was 4.2% and when he left office was 7.8%
When Obama took office it was 7.8%, rose to 10.1% and then dropped to the current level of 9.1%

I'd pick something better to crow about if I were you.  Maintaining an unemployment rate of above 9% for most of his presidency is nothing to point to as an achievement.  It's only been below 9% for four months of his presidency.  He's dropped from the high number under his watch a whopping 1%.  That's embarrassing.  

In comparison, unemployment was at or below 6% for 85 months under President Bush and at or below 5% for 43 months of his presidency.
President Bush turned around a high u/e number of 6.3 in 2003 to a low of 4.4, nearly two points lower.  

Again, you like to use goal posts of the beginning and end of the Bush administration so you can ignore facts like these as well as the massive gains and record high made on the Dow during the Bush years.

But I guess when your guy stinks as bad as this one does, you can always resort to trying to blame the previous guy or ignore certain facts to try and make your guy look better.

[AquaMan]

In comparison, unemployment was at or below 6% for 85 months under President Bush and at or below 5% for 43 months of his presidency.

So give Obama 85 months and then compare. Heck, give him 43 months. [/size]

Perhaps you would like to recreate the circumstances that drove unemployment down during those 43 months? Goldman Sach, Bernie Madoff, expanding real estate bubble and our responses to 911 which included huge employment ramp up for Homeland Security?

[Townsend]

Perhaps you would like to recreate the circumstances that drove unemployment down during those 43 months? Goldman Sach, Bernie Madoff, expanding real estate bubble and our responses to 911 which included huge employment ramp up for Homeland Security?

...left over Clinton policies...

[Conan71]

Aquaman, you forgot about the accounting scandals and unsustainable false business equity bubble which occurred in the late 1990's and early '00's that resulted in an unemployment rate of 4.2% at the end of the Clinton administration.  Where's your blame for that?

It is what it is.  I'd hope we are all pragmatic enough to realize there's a certain amount of luck in a president getting to preside over relatively good economic times.  For Reagan, he enjoyed the benefit of a rapidly growing semiconductor market and all the things that could wind up in like the explosive growth in personal computers at home and work.  For Clinton, he was blessed with the massive growth and exploitation of the internet, cellular phones, biotechnology, etc. 

Many market segments enjoyed growth from 2001 to 2009, energy prices also bolstered the economy under President Bush.  You make it sound as if it was only by nefarious means that we had low unemployment during those years.

[AquaMan]

...left over Clinton policies...

Oh yeah, I forgot that insistence on taking responsibility...

The thought process goes like this, "If Bush didn't do it, and the republican congress didn't do it, then obviously it was the democratic congress, Clinton and of course Obama". You can make a pretty good case for those policies being by consensus.

[AquaMan]

Aquaman, you forgot about the accounting scandals and unsustainable false business equity bubble which occurred in the late 1990's and early '00's that resulted in an unemployment rate of 4.2% at the end of the Clinton administration.  Where's your blame for that?

It is what it is.  I'd hope we are all pragmatic enough to realize there's a certain amount of luck in a president getting to preside over relatively good economic times.  For Reagan, he enjoyed the benefit of a rapidly growing semiconductor market and all the things that could wind up in like the explosive growth in personal computers at home and work.  For Clinton, he was blessed with the massive growth and exploitation of the internet, cellular phones, biotechnology, etc. 

Many market segments enjoyed growth from 2001 to 2009, energy prices also bolstered the economy under President Bush.  You make it sound as if it was only by nefarious means that we had low unemployment during those years.

Not at all. I was just fleshing out some of the reasons for the fluctuations during two, long, excruciating Bush terms. From what I can tell as an outsider to the system, we seem to be a pretty bumbling mess of financial affairs. Lots of blame to go around yet it all tends to settle on Bush and Obama.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Not at all. I was just fleshing out some of the reasons for the fluctuations during two, long, excruciating Bush terms. From what I can tell as an outsider to the system, we seem to be a pretty bumbling mess of financial affairs. Lots of blame to go around yet it all tends to settle on Bush and Obama.

Its because Bush is white

[Conan71]

Its because Bush is white

Thank you for pointing out the huge elephant in the room 

[Teatownclown]

" The REAL USA Unemployment rate is 30% http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-REAL-USA-Unemployment-rate-is-30/135828199819572
The official Unemployment rate is supposed to be 9.5%. Let's see if the Stats add up though....... Total US population: 311,000,000 (from the 2010 Census) 18-65 yr old Civilians in the USA: 195,308,000 (62.8% of people) 18-65 yr olds who are Employed: 130,381,000 (BLS figure) People in Prison: 2,200,000 People in Colleges: 14,261,800 (many are IN the workforce or looking as well) Updated overall civilian base population: 178,846,200 Unemployed people not in Prison or College available 4 work: 48,465,200 So those figures give you............................... (maximum) Percentage of people working = 72.9% (MINIMUM!!!!!) Unemployment rate = 27.1%!!! (Maximum) Unemployment rate = 33.3%!!!!!!!!!! If there's one thing you can't manipulate, it's statistics. And this is all based off of THEIR stats! 8.8%?! Yeah right! And just to be able to give all those people in College a job when they graduate in the next 4 years, the Economy will need to be producing a MINIMUM of 297,121 jobs a month. To get Unemployment down to 0% in 4 years, the economy will need to produce a whopping 1,306,813 jobs a month!!!! The March 2011 jobs report says only 200,000 were created, and this is good news?! So what about the other nearly 49 million who are already looking for work?!"

%48 of young blacks are now unemployed...


The GOP sucks for their lack of sensitivity to this important issue. No doubt, they truly believe that as long as America remains FAT, there will be no revolution. All their issues revolve around maintaining a critical mass of fat, stupid, and uneducated supporters.

[Conan71]

How are the policies of extended u/e benefits working out for job creation, there TTC?

[JCnOwasso]

" The REAL USA Unemployment rate is 30% http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-REAL-USA-Unemployment-rate-is-30/135828199819572
The official Unemployment rate is supposed to be 9.5%. Let's see if the Stats add up though....... Total US population: 311,000,000 (from the 2010 Census) 18-65 yr old Civilians in the USA: 195,308,000 (62.8% of people) 18-65 yr olds who are Employed: 130,381,000 (BLS figure) People in Prison: 2,200,000 People in Colleges: 14,261,800 (many are IN the workforce or looking as well) Updated overall civilian base population: 178,846,200 Unemployed people not in Prison or College available 4 work: 48,465,200 So those figures give you............................... (maximum) Percentage of people working = 72.9% (MINIMUM!!!!!) Unemployment rate = 27.1%!!! (Maximum) Unemployment rate = 33.3%!!!!!!!!!! If there's one thing you can't manipulate, it's statistics. And this is all based off of THEIR stats! 8.8%?! Yeah right! And just to be able to give all those people in College a job when they graduate in the next 4 years, the Economy will need to be producing a MINIMUM of 297,121 jobs a month. To get Unemployment down to 0% in 4 years, the economy will need to produce a whopping 1,306,813 jobs a month!!!! The March 2011 jobs report says only 200,000 were created, and this is good news?! So what about the other nearly 49 million who are already looking for work?!"

%48 of young blacks are now unemployed...


The GOP sucks for their lack of sensitivity to this important issue. No doubt, they truly believe that as long as America remains FAT, there will be no revolution. All their issues revolve around maintaining a critical mass of fat, stupid, and uneducated supporters.

God forbid there are actually people in this country who have decided not to work.