PHAT PHILLY'S PHOLLOW-UP

[carltonplace]

Opening at 13th and Peoria. Is Jason Smith still attached?

[SXSW]

The building renovation looks good.  That whole stretch of Peoria looks so much better than just a couple years ago with Phat Philly's and the renovations across the street.  Wish they would have put a big outdoor seating area to the north of the building instead of the small parking lot (already parking behind) but looking forward to its return.  The one on Detroit was open until 3 am, surely this one will be too?

[jacobi]

In my wild, deveopment filled dreams, I would love to see the north east and west corners of that intersection developed (in the usual multistory, multi-pourpose theme that we all pretty much agree on).  Iguess I'll keep on dreaming.

[SXSW]

In my wild, deveopment filled dreams, I would love to see the north east and west corners of that intersection developed (in the usual multistory, multi-pourpose theme that we all pretty much agree on).  Iguess I'll keep on dreaming.

It may happen eventually.  That entire corridor is being transformed.  Tracy Park is a cool little neighborhood.

[jacobi]

Well I think that intersection is important because 13th is halfway between the pearl and cherry street as well as being a gateway into downtown.  I think the area under the IDL on 13th needs to be developed more fully (there are soccer goals there now, but nothing else)  Now if only someone had the backing to do something about the pawn shop.  That place used to be the best place in town to buy used music gear.  It has fallen so far.

[TheTed]

That stretch of 13th is one of the strangest streets downtown. It's gotta be the street with the most excess capacity. Four lanes but you only see one car every five minutes between Peoria and Detroit, even during business hours.

That makes it a great gateway from downtown to Cherry Street on foot or bike. But it's only good in that regard because it's completely devoid of cars. Next step should be toward actively making it a good bike/pedestrian street. Replacing the two outer lanes to make big bike lanes and wide sidewalks would be nice.

[carltonplace]

That stretch of 13th is one of the strangest streets downtown. It's gotta be the street with the most excess capacity. Four lanes but you only see one car every five minutes between Peoria and Detroit, even during business hours.

That makes it a great gateway from downtown to Cherry Street on foot or bike. But it's only good in that regard because it's completely devoid of cars. Next step should be toward actively making it a good bike/pedestrian street. Replacing the two outer lanes to make big bike lanes and wide sidewalks would be nice.

13th Street use to be the main artery into Downtown from the suburbs before the IDL was completed. I've heard that the BA Expwy ended just east of Utica and traffic was diverted down 13th St to Boston.

I think its great that these buildings are getting a new life. I also love that a Phat Phillies is going in across the street from a Cross Fit gym - problem and cure.

[SXSW]

13th would be a perfect street for reduction to 2 lanes (one each way) and bike lanes.  It is one of the few continuous streets from Boston to Lewis and connects several neighborhoods.  6th is another good candidate with its connection to TU.

[dbacks fan]

13th would be a perfect street for reduction to 2 lanes (one each way) and bike lanes.  It is one of the few continuous streets from Boston to Lewis and connects several neighborhoods.  6th is another good candidate with its connection to TU.

I have to disagree. Once the change goes into effect for Cherry street, I think you are going to see more people use 13th as a way to avoid the choke point on 15th between Quaker and Peoria, and if they changed 13th and 6th it would cut easy street access to 11th street and 3rd street.

[carltonplace]

13th would be a perfect street for reduction to 2 lanes (one each way) and bike lanes.  It is one of the few continuous streets from Boston to Lewis and connects several neighborhoods.  6th is another good candidate with its connection to TU.

Both 13th St and 15th Street are a nice climb from Boston to Lewis, but you don't have to pedal at all heading west bound.

[Red Arrow]

13th Street use to be the main artery into Downtown from the suburbs before the IDL was completed. I've heard that the BA Expwy ended just east of Utica and traffic was diverted down 13th St to Boston.

My 1971 map of Tulsa shows pretty much what you said.  The transition to the arterial streets is not explicit.  Both 13th St and 14th St are marked as one-way but divided.  I think the BA exited to 13th Pl for at least a bit inbound and outbound was 14th St to near Utica. 

[GJusSayin]

Does anyone know if this has opened yet??  Getting hungry.

[carltonplace]

Does anyone know if this has opened yet??  Getting hungry.

Ran past yesterday and its still under construction.

[Hoss]

Does anyone know if this has opened yet??  Getting hungry.

You haven't eaten since the 3rd?  Wow...

[TheTed]

Now open.

Cheez-Whiz, Phat Philly's opens in new location
Phat Philly's is back. The popular former downtown restaurant has opened at 1305 S. Peoria Ave.
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The new restaurant will be open 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday-Thursday and, just as it used to be, 10 a.m. to 4 a.m. Friday-Saturday.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx?CheezWhiz_Phat_Phillys_opens_in_new_location/21-13960