Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

Started by Gaspar, October 03, 2011, 09:20:46 AM

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swake

Quote from: Gaspar on October 03, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
That's what their signs say.

The Workers World Party is a socialist group.

Nice logical jump.

You think we should make some blanket assumptions about all Tea Partiers based on signs at those protests?

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on October 03, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
Whose?  That guy over there or that guy?

Would you like to advance the theory that they are somehow in support of Capitalism?

Regale us with your interpretation, and post more than a haiku or your standard drollic quip.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

Quote from: swake on October 03, 2011, 11:49:20 AM
Nice logical jump.

You think we should make some blanket assumptions about all Tea Partiers based on signs at those protests?

LOL!  Don't you?

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 03, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
Would you like to advance the theory that they are somehow in support of Capitalism?

Regale us with your interpretation, and post more than a haiku or your standard drollic quip.

If I answer like you I guess I'd need to say "If you're too slow to understand my meaning then it's meaningless to explain.  It's probably not your fault."

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on October 03, 2011, 11:58:19 AM
If I answer like you I guess I'd need to say "If you're too slow to understand my meaning then it's meaningless to explain.  It's probably not your fault."

I'm sorry, that was unfair.  I did not mean to hurt your feelings.

Am I making an unfair assumption that this group is socialist in nature because they are organized by AdBusters and the Worker's World Party?  Perhaps these groups simply supplied signs, and because the messages and imagery of Chi was attractive, the protesters opted to carry these signs.

I wonder if any of these poor kids have any idea of what they really believe in, outside of the emotion of the group?

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 03, 2011, 12:18:47 PM
I wonder if any of these poor kids have any idea of what they really believe in, outside of the emotion of the group?

You think any of these groups know?  You think someone calling themselves a "tea partier" believes the same thing as another "tea partier" next to him?

You think that guy throwing millions into a political pot for some party believes the same as the other guy doing the same thing?

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on October 03, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
You think any of these groups know?  You think someone calling themselves a "tea partier" believes the same thing as another "tea partier" next to him?

You think that guy throwing millions into a political pot for some party believes the same as the other guy doing the same thing?

I don't know.  It seems like the Tea Party, Democratic Party, Republican Party, Libertarian Party, Socialist Party, Communist Party and the various organizations associated with them all have a fairly well documented platform, and understanding of the foundations of that platform. 
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on October 03, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
You think any of these groups know?  You think someone calling themselves a "tea partier" believes the same thing as another "tea partier" next to him?

You think that guy throwing millions into a political pot for some party believes the same as the other guy doing the same thing?

Probably safe to say all those Hitler youth young protestors share a common belief capitalism is a bust since that was mainly what they were protesting.

Curious how many will go on to be investment banksters some day?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 03, 2011, 12:43:56 PM
I don't know.  It seems like the Tea Party, Democratic Party, Republican Party, Libertarian Party, Socialist Party, Communist Party and the various organizations associated with them all have a fairly well documented platform, and understanding of the foundations of that platform. 


Ask a tea partier where he's taking his country back from and where is he taking it?

As far as the other parties you think that socially liberal/fiscally conservative Republican standing over there feels the same way as that socially conservative Republican standing over on the other wall?

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on October 03, 2011, 12:48:05 PM
Probably safe to say all those Hitler youth young protestors share a common belief capitalism is a bust since that was mainly what they were protesting.

Curious how many will go on to be investment banksters some day?

I doubt it.  I'd assume many of them were looking for a way to feel like they belong to something either for a few hours or many weeks.

How many people sticking flowers in gun barrels in the '60's are now investment bankers?

Ed W

Quote from: Gaspar on October 03, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
That's what their signs say.

The Workers World Party is a socialist group.

With that thought in mind:



Based on this evidence, I've concluded that the protestors are all German philosophers, and since Germany is also known for it's high-quality porn, it's painfully obvious that this young woman wants me.  I really hate breaking her heart, but there's no alternative.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Townsend

Quote from: Ed W on October 03, 2011, 01:13:01 PM

Based on this evidence, I've concluded that the protestors are all German philosophers, and since Germany is also known for it's high-quality porn, it's painfully obvious that this young woman wants me. 

And per the preceding logic so does the older gentleman behind her and to your right.

Gaspar

I guess we will have an opportunity to experience this group up close in Tulsa soon. A local gentleman, Daniel Lee, is organizing a march on the 15th here in tulsa.



Don't know much about him except he claims to be a "Democratic Socialist," student of Aliester Crowley, supporter of the Anarchist Black Cross, and upstanding member of the local Hearthside Pagan Coven.

They have a nice facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/OccupyTulsa

I can't wait to take pictures at the event!
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gaspar

Moveon.org has now joined in support of Occupy Wall Street.

On Wednesday, when MoveOn.org hosts an online video "march," members will join in with labor and community groups for what the say will be the biggest demonstration to date.

"Together, we'll add hundreds of thousands of voices of solidarity from the American Dream Movement for the protests across the country and show just how widespread outrage at the Wall Street banks really is," MoveOn wrote in an email blast to members.


So it looks like this will be gobbled up by the Democrat Party, just as the Tea Party was gobbled up by the Republican party. . .or was it the other way around?





When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

JCnOwasso

Quote from: Gaspar on October 03, 2011, 10:54:15 AM
Not a bad observation.  I think we have a problem in this country with the understanding individual rights, and individualism in general.  As you can see in many of the posts on their site and the images on their flicker account, these are the young people that have suffered horrible injustice in their education.  They believe that individuality comes from the tip of a tattoo gun or is communicated by the shirt they wear. They don't understand that true individuality is based on who you are and what you can do to better yourself and the world, rather that what you look like, or who you choose to stand with.

Gaspar, I am a little disappointed in you.  Judging a group of people because they have a tattoo or 7 or because they may wear a shirt that is not a white button up with a blue/red tie?  Is this all you can pull together?  They are doing what they believe to be bettering themselves and the world, just like the Tea Party.  And isn't who you choose to stand with a big determining factor on who you are as an individual?  I am sorry that you cannot seem to see that there may be other answers in this world other than what you think is right.