Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

Started by Gaspar, October 03, 2011, 09:20:46 AM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 14, 2011, 08:27:17 AM
Don't see anything about incentive stock options.  That is the part of the discussion that is always dismissed by the 1%ers - it's always about how "we pay so much in dollars than anyone else".  And that is the overwhelming part of income that is universally ignored.  When there is a $1 million regular income, there is always a 5 to 120 million "bonus" and "stock option" income.  At 15%.  Rather than 25% or 30 or whatever.

That is the big free ride they have been enjoying for years.  And that has finally come to the awareness of many people, most of whom couldn't/wouldn't believe there is that much gross inequity in the system.  Probably a big motivator to the protests we see going on now.

Take a look at the links Nathan provided to me.  Warren Buffet must be paying his secretary pretty well.  There are a lot of overall rates less than 20%.  Look at the overall rates, not just the marginal rates.  For us little guys, the bottom portion of our income is taxed at lower rates and is a significant portion of our income.  Us 99% get to "hide" some income too in 401K plans.  That helps lower my overall rate by lowering my AGI by nearly 15%.  There are other breaks too for losses like uninsured damages caused by storms as I remember.  Haven't had to deal with that one, yet.
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Teatownclown on October 14, 2011, 08:30:01 AM
You've been in the looking glass if you think things are getting ugly. Your grotesque comment is a fail.

Occupy Wall Street Has Already Won
How the movement has already shaken up American politics, and where it should go from here.



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_best_policy/2011/10/occupy_wall_street_s_victory_it_has_shaken_up_american_politics_.html
"But until these protests, no political figure or movement had made Americans pay attention to these facts in a meaningful way. Indeed, over the long hot summer, as poverty rose and unemployment stagnated, the entire discussion was about cutting our deficit."
"There is much ground to cover before real reform, but as a voice challenging a self-satisfied, well-protected status quo, OWS is already powerful and successful."

Now, vilify the author of the article rather than addressing the silent majority.

The one thing it has done, is become everything that the left media said the Tea Party would be.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 14, 2011, 07:33:02 AM
Things are apparently getting ugly now.  The cleanup was postponed by Blumeberg because the protesters were threatening violence.  This morning they blocked off one end of the street, and NYPD has assembled in Battery park with riot gear and urban assault vehicles.  They have assembled barracades to funnel the crowd and protect Wall Street workers trying to get to their offices.

The police are no longer allowing the protesters on the street and one protester ran out in front of a police motorcycle and was run over and injured. Today will not be a good day.  The protesters and the police are fueled by rage.

Bloomberg:FAIL

Can you at least link something?  I've heard a much different story.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 14, 2011, 08:45:44 AM
The one thing it has done, is become everything that the left media said the Tea Party would be.


And what is that?

Gaspar

The group in Denver has been dispersed.  The police have removed 6 dump trucks of trash so far and continue to remove more.  There is quite a bit of property damage.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvplive/cvpstream1#/video/cvplive/cvpstream1
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

Quote from: Gaspar on October 14, 2011, 08:57:11 AM
The group in Denver has been dispersed.  The police have removed 6 dump trucks of trash so far and continue to remove more.  There is quite a bit of property damage.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvplive/cvpstream1#/video/cvplive/cvpstream1

Your link is a helicopter skid camera with no audio.


My God dude.  You just post crap and then link something that has nothing to do with it?

Red Arrow

Quote from: Townsend on October 14, 2011, 09:02:27 AM
Your link is a helicopter skid camera with no audio.

Videos are blocked here at work.

You want talking trash?
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: Gaspar on October 14, 2011, 08:45:44 AM
The one thing it has done, is become everything that the left media said the Tea Party would be.


If you can't get an existing group to cooperate, start your own.

;D
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Townsend on October 14, 2011, 09:02:27 AM
Your link is a helicopter skid camera with no audio.


My God dude.  You just post crap and then link something that has nothing to do with it?


A moment ago it was the live camera following the dump trucks.  You're a big boy.  Find a link.

. . .and stop the trolling.

You have become that guy at the end of the bar that has to chime in to other people's conversations.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

RecycleMichael

LOL.

You challenge others to go find links to match your rambling thoughts?

You crack me up.
Power is nothing till you use it.

we vs us

Re: OWS in Zuccotti Park... there was never a confrontation and there was never violence.  In fact, the protesters spent the night mopping, scrubbing and cleaning the park from top to bottom.  In the AM, the private ownership of the park decided to ask the NYPD and the city to demur the scheduled cleaning.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/14/us/occupy-wall-street/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: Gaspar on October 14, 2011, 06:30:54 AM
On MSNBC's Morning Joe, DONNY DEUTSCH said he "hopes for a Kent State moment" at OWS so that their message will continue to resonate with the American people.

So now the left begins to hope for violence.  Sad!

Actually I was thinking that was what the right was hoping for.  Weird.

we vs us

Quote from: CharlieSheen on October 14, 2011, 09:28:55 AM
Actually I was thinking that was what the right was hoping for.  Weird.

Donny Deutsch is, actually, not a rabid lefty.   

RecycleMichael

Quote from: Gaspar on October 14, 2011, 07:33:02 AM
Things are apparently getting ugly now.  The cleanup was postponed by Blumeberg because the protesters were threatening violence.  This morning they blocked off one end of the street, and NYPD has assembled in Battery park with riot gear and urban assault vehicles.  They have assembled barracades to funnel the crowd and protect Wall Street workers trying to get to their offices.

The police are no longer allowing the protesters on the street and one protester ran out in front of a police motorcycle and was run over and injured. Today will not be a good day.  The protesters and the police are fueled by rage.

Bloomberg:FAIL

Can you pick some football games so I will know who not to bet on this weekend?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

Quote from: we vs us on October 14, 2011, 09:28:39 AM
Re: OWS in Zuccotti Park... there was never a confrontation and there was never violence.  In fact, the protesters spent the night mopping, scrubbing and cleaning the park from top to bottom.  In the AM, the private ownership of the park decided to ask the NYPD and the city to demur the scheduled cleaning.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/14/us/occupy-wall-street/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_park_cleanup_postponed_7FyMGft7IABwkMxaEW1sYP
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.