Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[Teatownclown]

The foot soldiers of the elite at some point don't want to impede the movement...would you suggest an iron fist?

Blast away on Chris Hedges....

[dbacks fan]

Standard polling technique.

Probably one of those "within +/- 3%" type things.

True, and I'm sure the questioning and the area polled, were picked to generate the results they wanted.

[dbacks fan]

The foot soldiers of the elite at some point don't want to impede the movement...would you suggest an iron fist?

Blast away on Chris Hedges....

Typical OWS propoganda.

[dbacks fan]

Some criticism and praise of Chris Hedges:

CriticismRick Perlstein of the New York Times writes "Of course there are Christian fascists in America. How else to describe, say, the administrator of a faith-based drug treatment program who bound and beat a resident, then subjected her to 32 straight hours of recorded sermons?" Perlstein believes that this book, however, "is not a worthy attempt ... [Hedges] writes on this subject as a neophyte, and pads out his dispatches with ungrounded theorizing, unconvincing speculation and examples that fall far short of bearing out his thesis ... Hedges is worst when he makes the supposed imminence of mass violence the reason the rest of us should be fighting for the open society... The problem is that he can't point to any actual existing violence among the people he's reporting on"[26]

Joe Bailey of the Oregon Daily Emerald wrote that Hedges "confuses political activism with totalitarian violence. ... Like all Americans, conservative Christians have the right to pursue their political objectives through peaceful and democratic means. Which is precisely what they have done. Despite the peaceful and democratic nature of their activism, Hedges attacks conservative Christians with the nastiest of slurs, revealing a frightening ignorance. ... The old guard of the Christian Right is stuck in the culture war mentality that originated in the 1960s. When liberals like Hedges adopt a similar culture war mentality, they only fortify the divide and lend ammunition to their adversaries."[27]

[edit] PraisePublishers Weekly wrote of the book: "As a Harvard Divinity School graduate, his investigation of the Christian Right agenda is even more alarming given its lucidity. Citing the psychology and sociology of fascism and cults, including the work of German historian Fritz Stern, Hedges draws striking parallels between 20th-century totalitarian movements and the highly organized, well-funded "dominionist movement," an influential theocratic sect within the country's huge evangelical population. Rooted in a radical Calvinism, and wrapping its apocalyptic, vehemently militant, sexist and homophobic vision in patriotic and religious rhetoric, dominionism seeks absolute power in a Christian state. Hedges's reportage profiles both former members and true believers, evoking the particular characteristics of this American variant of fascism. His argument against what he sees as a democratic society's suicidal tolerance for intolerant movements has its own paradoxes. But this urgent book forcefully illuminates what many across the political spectrum will recognize as a serious and growing threat to the very concept and practice of an open society." [28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Fascists:_The_Christian_Right_and_the_War_on_America

[guido911]

Feet sniffers?

http://mrctv.org/videos/occupy-toronto-man-was-my-tent-sniffing-my-girlfriend%E2%80%99s-feet%E2%80%9D


I guess he was reading Dick Morris.

[guido911]

Great news!!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/20/2011-10-20_legal_minds_step_up_to_offer_their_support.html

[guido911]

Let's hear it for free speech!!!!

Infuriated lower Manhattan residents went ballistic on Zuccotti Park protesters at a chaotic Community Board 1 meeting tonight while blasting politicians for allowing the siege to continue without any end in sight.

"They are defecating on our doorsteps," fumed Katherine Hughes, a stay at home mom who has the misfortune of living one block from the chaos. "A lot of people are very frustrated. A lot of people are concerned about the safety of our kids."

Fed up homeowners said that they've been subjected to insults and harassment as they trek to their jobs each morning. "The protesters taunt people who are on their way to work," said James Fernandez, 51, whose apartment overlooks the park. "I walk out of my apartment and see people urinating on my steps."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/angry_manhattan_residents_lambast_RjpTU0jG2z9yrgf5o4bRcO#ixzz1bND7pFVl

[Emphasis added].

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/angry_manhattan_residents_lambast_RjpTU0jG2z9yrgf5o4bRcO

[AquaMan]

A lot of people, in fact most people, went to Woodstock and didn't skinny dip in farmers ponds, do drugs, fornicate publicly and generally act foolish. They went for the music and commeraderie. Very little reporting featured them or even made note of them. They didn't make movies about those kids who later went on to become solid middle class parents, entrepreneurs, stock brokers, politicians and TP'ers later in life.

Some people saw that the festival featured the best rock performers and performances of the time as well as shocking the country with the contrast of a new generation. Others chose to focus on the skinny dippers and druggies and totally missed the implications.

[Red Arrow]

A lot of people, in fact most people, went to Woodstock and didn't skinny dip in farmers ponds, do drugs, fornicate publicly and generally act foolish. They went for the music and commeraderie.

A guy in the room next to mine in the dorm (U of D) went to Woodstock.  He was mostly normal and probably fell into your second category with the possible exception of a little weed.

[BKDotCom]

here's a nice little point maker:
http://digg.com/news/politics/this_is_what_the_99_are_talking_about

Add Kivisto to the list

[heironymouspasparagus]

here's a nice little point maker:
http://digg.com/news/politics/this_is_what_the_99_are_talking_about

Add Kivisto to the list

Pretty well covers the biggest part of the topic, doesn't it?

[guido911]

Hey, let's interrupt your dinner!!!

[dbacks fan]

Hey, let's interrupt your dinner!!!

CMIIW, but they are protesting on private property, inside a business, and that's not legal. I realize that it is probably a misdemeanor, but at some point these people are going to push someone to the point of retaliation. I don't believe they have the right to do this kind of protesting, not to mention just some basic common courtesy which some of these people seem to be totally lacking.

[heironymouspasparagus]

This is something that should be a concern.
If the OWS knew this, they would become catatonic and sit down and wet themselves.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2051008/Does-super-corporation-run-global-economy.html

Same only different - has list of companies.  Notice how NONE of them are actually productive - they just make Monopoly money.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

[guido911]

Cindy Sheehan's back. Media whore extraordinaire.