Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[Teatownclown]

dbacks, you don't have an issue with setting up alcohol checkpoints at all major city intersections ....do you? What about on your corner? or your new neighborhood, Guido? You'd be endeared to your new neighbors much like you are around these threads.

[Teatownclown]

Your front yard is (probably) not public or public access property.  Your front sidewalk may be fair game.  Publish your address and you may get some company.

Does someone's right to protest include the right to preclude me from doing what I want to do, such as go to work, do business with a bank you don't like or even just walk down a sidewalk?  Attitudes like that start riots.

walk around them.... you don't seem like a whiner. There will be no riots unless Lee Atwaters children start them....

[Red Arrow]

PLEASE....this is not "goading".....

Your opinion, I disagree.

You've made an incredibly inane statement with regard to the students at Kent State murdered by orders from the Governor. They weren't necessarily willing to die for their cause.

Anyone willing to throw rocks at armed National Guard troops is willing to die for their cause.  Up until then I respected their dedication. Show me the transcript where the Gov gave the order to murder peaceful protesters.

[dbacks fan]

How about we start door to door sweeps for illegal drugs starting at your place?

[Red Arrow]

walk around them....

I would, if able.  From what I have seen so far, that would be easily done with the possible exception of being forced into the street due to lack of space.  Then I could get arrested for jaywalking through no fault of my own.  That would make me very unhappy and unsympathetic to their cause.  Keep in mind I agree with some of the stated complaints by the OWSers.  I mostly disagree with the few solutions I have seen and heard.

I do, however, see the possibility of this escalating to something like the vicious union strike and company lockout situations of the early union days. That I cannot approve.

[Teatownclown]

Your opinion, I disagree.

Anyone willing to throw rocks at armed National Guard troops is willing to die for their cause.  Up until then I respected their dedication. Show me the transcript where the Gov gave the order to murder peaceful protesters.

proof:""There's been a grave injustice for 40 years because we lacked sufficient evidence to prove what we've known all along - that the Ohio National Guard was commanded to kill at Kent State on May 4, 1970."  http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/05/new_analysis_of_40-year-old_re.html

J Edgar, Nixon, Rhodes....set an example of what not to do....all had bloody trigger fingers.

And yes, the Union Workers are now allied in Oakland. http://www.truth-out.org/source-port-oakland-effectively-shut-down-solidarity-o
ccupy-oakland-general-strike/1320253405

http://tinyurl.com/42mvd2l

"Despite push-back from union leaders and the management at the Port
of Oakland, rank and file longshoremen are adamant that many
longshoremen decided not to work today and disrupted work at the Port
of Oakland today, in solidarity with the general strike called by the
Occupy Oakland protesters."

[Red Arrow]

BUT, it's time to change the way elections are funded and the way politicians are allowed to gain at everyone's expense.

I ageee with election funding needing reform.

1. Individual contributions only.
2. No Union or Corporation financial support as an organization.  Individual members may contribute as desired.
3. Caps on contributions, including expensive fund raising dinners and other loopholes.  
4. No PAC or other Lobby money.  PACs and Lobbying would be permitted but no gifts or donations, period.  Not even a free drink or hamburger.
5. Probably more loopholes I am not aware of need to be closed.

[Teatownclown]

One dead... let's hope no more.

But look at this: http://occupywallstreet.tumblr.com/

Oakland has become the epicenter. No winter there.....

Seems like a much bigger movement than the Teabagger/GOP Movement.

[Red Arrow]

proof:""There's been a grave injustice for 40 years because we lacked sufficient evidence to prove what we've known all along - that the Ohio National Guard was commanded to kill at Kent State on May 4, 1970."  http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/05/new_analysis_of_40-year-old_re.html

An order to fire in the field is not the same as the Governor giving a premeditated order to murder the protesters.  Try again. 

And yes, the Union Workers are now allied in Oakland.

"Despite push-back from union leaders and the management at the Port
of Oakland, rank and file longshoremen are adamant that many
longshoremen decided not to work today and disrupted work at the Port
of Oakland today, in solidarity with the general strike called by the
Occupy Oakland protesters."

If the Union workers choose to honor the strike, that's OK by me as long as they don't stop someone who wants to work.  The non working workers should be prepared to suffer some financial consequences (no pay for not showing up) unless they have some vacation or sick time to use.

[guido911]

And Guido, those demonstrators pay for the parks......

They do? I read 1 in 3 pays no taxes. And for this taxpayer, obey the law and get out.

[Conan71]

An order to fire in the field is not the same as the Governor giving a premeditated order to murder the protesters.  Try again.  

If the Union workers choose to honor the strike, that's OK by me as long as they don't stop someone who wants to work.  The non working workers should be prepared to suffer some financial consequences (no pay for not showing up) unless they have some vacation or sick time to use.

And quoting a blog isn't exactly scholarly material. 

I'd love to know if debate judges accept sources from the blogosphere these days.  I remember when I was in debate 30 some years ago in high school, we had to actually thumb through volumes of nationally recognized magazines as well as peer reviewed research papers and books for our war chest of evidence to build our case. 

[Teatownclown]

They do? I read 1 in 3 pays no taxes. And for this taxpayer, obey the law and get out.

They purchase some things..... last I looked, those taxes go for maintaining parks.

Are those protesters doing you damage? I mean recent direct damage resulting from their actions?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Can't work there.  Probably cronies of the Koch Brothers and run and owned by a bunch of 1%'ers.

Yeah, it is.  But not the Koch Brothers.

[Conan71]

Yeah, it is.  But not the Koch Brothers.

You don't read my writing very well, neither does the commenter earlier who made the John Zink comment.  "Probably cronies of the Koch Brothers" ring a bell?

I'm starting to think everyone on here suffers from ADHD.

[Teatownclown]

Conan, the blog has links to forensic experts data. Kent State was a government instigated mass murder. And it was the single moment in time that American's declared "out now" the catalyst to the end.