Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

Started by Gaspar, October 03, 2011, 09:20:46 AM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on November 22, 2011, 08:41:38 AM
Sure they do.  And that levelish opportunity doesn't exist.

It may or may not exist.  Not surprised by your answer though (Nathan's either).  I am surprised Wevsus hasn't chimed in.
 

we vs us

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 22, 2011, 11:57:34 AM
It may or may not exist.  Not surprised by your answer though (Nathan's either).  I am surprised Wevsus hasn't chimed in.

That levelish opportunity doesn't exist.

Red Arrow

Quote from: we vs us on November 22, 2011, 12:05:04 PM
That levelish opportunity doesn't exist.

Oh, there you are.

I won't deny that for many the opportunity doesn't exist.  For some it may be self inflicted by other decisons.  Others are not suited to a particular path.  I would not be successful as an actor, artist, restaurant owner and many more.  My original statement on this topic was more along the line that level/equal opportunity does not guarantee level/equal success.
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Red Arrow on November 22, 2011, 12:20:36 PM
Oh, there you are.

I won't deny that for many the opportunity doesn't exist.  For some it may be self inflicted by other decisons.  Others are not suited to a particular path.  I would not be successful as an actor, artist, restaurant owner and many more.  My original statement on this topic was more along the line that level/equal opportunity does not guarantee level/equal success.

But. . .had you gotten your "majorette" in drama like this precious doll, the government could get you a job as a director!

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

^^^^^

Would you stop posting vids of the fringe of the Pee Party movement.  /sarc
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Interesting when you see it in perspective.
The officer tells the protesters that if they don't clear the walkway they will be pepper-sprayed.

He tells them that he is getting ready to spray them.  The reply is "Your shooting us specifically? No that's fine, that's fine."

Then they continue to lock arms and taunt him to spray them.  He obliges.

His other alternative would have been physical take-down and arrest.   

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

DolfanBob

Quote from: Gaspar on November 22, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
Interesting when you see it in perspective.
The officer tells the protesters that if they don't clear the walkway they will be pepper-sprayed.

He tells them that he is getting ready to spray them.  The reply is "Your shooting us specifically? No that's fine, that's fine."

Then they continue to lock arms and taunt him to spray them.  He obliges.

His other alternative would have been physical take-down and arrest.   



Gasp. Not only was that hard to watch. It was jacking with my ears. Was that Directed by the majorette in the previous video ?
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Gaspar

Quote from: DolfanBob on November 22, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
Gasp. Not only was that hard to watch. It was jacking with my ears. Was that Directed by the majorette in the previous video ?

I don't think they had no cuts and stuff.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

Here is a list of businesses you Pee Party supporters are requested to boycott on Black Friday:

Quote- Abercrombie & Fitch
- Amazon.com (yes, we have to stay away from Amazon, too!)
- AT&T Wireless

- Burlington Coat Factory

- Dick's Sporting Goods (I was surprised, too!)
- Dollar Tree
- The Home Depot

- Neiman Marcus
- OfficeMax
- Toys R'Us
- Verizon Wireless
- Wal-Mart


http://www.stopblackfriday.com/2011/11/retail-stores-to-occupy-boycott-on.html
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on November 22, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
Here is a list of businesses you Pee Party supporters are requested to boycott on Black Friday:

Well, you can put to bed the idea rattling around in your head that these folks are pro-union. AT&T is by far the most unionized of the telecom carriers. Even a lot of their salespeople are union. Unlike Verizon, their wireless division is also mostly unionized, not just landline.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on November 22, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
Well, you can put to bed the idea rattling around in your head that these folks are pro-union. AT&T is by far the most unionized of the telecom carriers. Even a lot of their salespeople are union. Unlike Verizon, their wireless division is also mostly unionized, not just landline.

Well, despite the Pee Party's request, I will buy the gifts I plan to donate to the needy at Toys R Us. I may buy a couple more just to make up for the "boycott".
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on November 22, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
Well, you can put to bed the idea rattling around in your head that these folks are pro-union. AT&T is by far the most unionized of the telecom carriers. Even a lot of their salespeople are union. Unlike Verizon, their wireless division is also mostly unionized, not just landline.

Pee Partiers are probably unaware of the union status of the AT&T workers.
 

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

patric

Quote from: Gaspar on November 22, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
The officer tells the protesters that if they don't clear the walkway they will be pepper-sprayed.
He tells them that he is getting ready to spray them.  The reply is "Your shooting us specifically? No that's fine, that's fine."
Then they continue to lock arms and taunt him to spray them.  He obliges.
His other alternative would have been physical take-down and arrest.  

His other alternative would have been to walk away from a peaceful gathering.
That area was actually designed for student gatherings, so a gathering of students would not have been particularly out of order.
But that apparently wasn't his style:

In 2003, two years after John Pike joined the campus police force, he received his first meritorious service award for using his patrol car to bump a suspect's vehicle onto a local highway ramp.
Four years later, the university's press office issued a release about accolades Pike received after subduing a UC Davis Medical Center patient who was threatening a fellow officer.  Pike saw the scissors-wielding patient try to assault an officer and landed "a body block, powering his left shoulder" into her, the release said.
But an alleged anti-gay slur by Pike also figured in a racial and sexual discrimination lawsuit a former police officer filed against the department, which ended in a $240,000 settlement in 2008.
Katehi identified Pike as one of the officers involved in the pepper-spray incident in an interview with the campus television station Sunday, and university communications staff confirmed his role Tuesday.
Over the weekend, the hacker group Anonymous, which is affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street movement, posted on its website Pike's phone number and other personal details.

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on November 22, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
Interesting when you see it in perspective.
The officer tells the protesters that if they don't clear the walkway they will be pepper-sprayed.

He tells them that he is getting ready to spray them.  The reply is "Your shooting us specifically? No that's fine, that's fine."

Then they continue to lock arms and taunt him to spray them.  He obliges.

His other alternative would have been physical take-down and arrest.   

You really think pepper spraying people who are non-violently blocking a little-used walkway is appropriate in any circumstance? Where do you draw the line? Since he warned them, could he have shot them?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln