Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

[nathanm]

I'll just leave this here. I'm sure it made more sense when I was about to post it a week ago when my laptop died:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/09/01/122865/regulations-taxes-arent-killing.html

As an aside, Firefox is grand. I just copied the profile from the dead computer's hard drive onto this here new one and there were all my tabs, just waiting for me to come back, like I never left.

RA, it's alright, I've got a good one saved up for you.

[Red Arrow]

or punching a policeman's horse,

Mongo?

[Red Arrow]

RA, it's alright, I've got a good one saved up for you.

I have no doubt you do.   

[nathanm]

And thanks to Google News, I finally see something nice.

Regulators have accused the former chief executives of the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac of misleading investors about their firms' exposure to risky mortgages, one of the most significant federal actions taken against those at the center of the housing bust.

The lawsuits filed Friday against the two chief executives and four other top executives are an aggressive move by the Securities and Exchange Commission, and come after a three-year investigation.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/s-e-c-sues-6-former-top-fannie-and-freddie-executives/

Hopefully the prosecutions of former Countrywide, Wells Fargo, WaMu, IndyMac executives and the thousands of mortgage brokers who knowingly processed, submitted, and sold the fraudulent mortgages at issue will not be far behind. T'would also be nice to see real sanctions in the foreclosure fraud cases.

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And thanks to Google News, I finally see something nice.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/s-e-c-sues-6-former-top-fannie-and-freddie-executives/

Hopefully the prosecutions of former Countrywide, Wells Fargo, WaMu, IndyMac executives and the thousands of mortgage brokers who knowingly processed, submitted, and sold the fraudulent mortgages at issue will not be far behind. T'would also be nice to see real sanctions in the foreclosure fraud cases.

What I saw on the TV was that these are civil, not criminal prosecutions.  Too bad.

[nathanm]

What I saw on the TV was that these are civil, not criminal prosecutions.  Too bad.

The executives are far removed enough, criminally, that they would probably only be subject to RICO. The lower level executives and managers who knowingly implemented the policies ought to be frogmarched into court on fraud charges.

[patric]

or punching a policeman's horse

The video shows the man being struck from behind by a policeman's baton.  When he regains his balance, the horse has advanced to the spot where the assaulting officer had been standing and is essentially trampling the man, who throws a punch in what could arguably be self defense.

It's dishonest and misleading to focus only on effect, and ignore cause, but I pity the horse for having to put up with the abuse from both sides.

[guido911]

The video shows the man being struck from behind by a policeman's baton.  When he regains his balance, the horse has advanced to the spot where the assaulting officer had been standing and is essentially trampling the man, who throws a punch in what could arguably be self defense.

It's dishonest and misleading to focus only on effect, and ignore cause, but I pity the horse for having to put up with the abuse from both sides.

I knew it was the police's fault.

[guido911]

More douchebaggery by the pee party. It wants the church that had given them support to let them take over its parking lot.

But in the weeks since Occupy Wall Street was evicted from Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan, relations between the demonstrators and Trinity Wall Street, a church barely one block from the New York Stock Exchange, have reached a crossroads.

The displaced occupiers had asked the church, one of the city's largest landholders, to hand over a gravel lot, near Canal Street and Avenue of the Americas, for use as an alternate campsite and organizing hub. The church declined, calling the proposed encampment "wrong, unsafe, unhealthy and potentially injurious."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/17/nyregion/church-that-aided-wall-st-protesters-is-now-their-target.html?_r=1&hp

Selfish, presumptuous wastes of gametes. The lot of them.

[nathanm]

I knew it was the police's fault.

So you're not familiar with the concept of contributory causation?

[guido911]

So you're not familiar with the concept of contributory causation?

Nope. Never heard of it. I do know that if it were not for the pee partier's presence or their non-compliance with the rule of law, the incident would never had happened. And here is the incident. Go to :25:

[nathanm]

Think contributory negligence, only generalized. I'm not the attorney, so I'm sure you can correct my terminology.

[guido911]

Think contributory negligence...

That's what I know. Also comparative negligence. Still, in that video, the idiot pee partier was pushed from behind, then took a wild swing and punched the horse. Did he mean to punch the horse or the cop? In patric's world, throwing a back-handed fist at the cop was okay under the circumstances.

[Teatownclown]

More douchebaggery by the pee party. It wants the church that had given them support to let them take over its parking lot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/17/nyregion/church-that-aided-wall-st-protesters-is-now-their-target.html?_r=1&hp

Selfish, presumptuous wastes of gametes. The lot of them.

That Parish knows who butters their bread. (hint: it's not Jesus)

[Teatownclown]

I knew it was the police's fault.

The police in NYC are way over the top thanks to Mayor %1.

They bust people all over NYC for small infractions with pot. %85 of them are African American whose population accounts for %10 of the total.

Then you have boom cities like Seattle who have their priorities straight.

The cops in NYC are not faultless....