Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

Started by Gaspar, October 03, 2011, 09:20:46 AM

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guido911

Quote from: Ed W on December 22, 2011, 07:00:36 PM
You just know that guy will be known as Moran for the rest of his days.  Coworkers will introduce him to new hires as Bob Moran or Ted Moran or even better, Duran Moran.  In our shop, it would never, ever be forgotten.

That's why the devil invented part of the internet. So bad decisions would live forever. hat tip SNL. Watch the whole thing, but the internet part begins around 2:30

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/Weekend-Update-The-Devil-on-Penn-State/1368181

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.



patric

Quote from: dbacks fan on December 26, 2011, 08:33:59 PM
So, does this fall under their right to occupy under their right to civil disobediance?

What could you compare it to?
Maybe this...



Protesters carrying signs supporting the Tulsa Police Department stood outside Mayor Kathy Taylor's house Friday to demonstrate their anger over the layoffs of 21 officers.

At mid-afternoon, about six people were outside the house, which is near 28th Street and Columbia Place.
"We are not doing any harm to anyone. We are just bringing the message to her home because that is where it affects us the most — at our homes," said one of the protesters, Kelsey Morris.

Several of the protesters said they are friends of the officers who were laid off.
"It does not matter if you know them or not; they are officers who served the city of Tulsa. It is a big hit on everybody, whether they realize it or not, when the city loses cops," said Ryan Kifer.

The Fraternal Order of Police issued a statement recognizing the outpouring of support generated by the recent layoff of 21 police officers but suggesting that any protest occur at a public site, not at a site near someone's private property in a residential neighborhood.
But the protesters said they believe that protesting at Taylor's residence was the best way to bring attention to what they believe is an injustice.

"We are pretty upset about them laying off the 21 Tulsa police officers," Kifer said. "We came out here to try and send a message to the community and people that don't really understand why they were laid off or who might not have been fully educated on the matter.
"Hopefully, we can change the minds of the citizens and maybe take a couple of donations for those officers who lost their jobs."

The protesters were taking donations for a fund that has been set up for the officers who were laid off Tuesday. Taylor has said the layoffs and other measures were necessary to cut the department's budget by $2 million.
Kifer said the protesters had no contact with anyone at the mayor's house but that he was hopeful that Taylor would come and talk to them about their concerns.


After spending about ten minutes deploying, police used a loudspeaker to address the protesters.
They were told that they were in violation of city ordinance, and asked to leave. They answered, chanting, that they "respectfully declined" to comply.

Police encircled the protesters who had stayed on the grass, sitting in a circle with their arms interlocked.
More officers deployed along the perimeter, face to face with the rest of the protesters on the sidewalk.
Then arrest teams began moving up and one by one, they removed each of the people in the circle, handcuffed them, and carried them to a nearby van.

Several of the protesters were pepper sprayed by the arresting officers.
Chief Webster told reporters later that "only protesters who actively resisted" were pepper sprayed.

None of the protesters was observed to physically threaten any of the officers; however, the protesters had linked arms and did refuse to move when so ordered.
That doesn't matter, said protester Stephanie Lewis. She says police went out of their way earlier in the day to meet with the protesters and explain how they could be arrested without the use of any force.

"They pepper sprayed point-blank in people's faces," one said. "They said they would not do that if we abided by the rules."




Ok, so the first part is from 2009, the later is KRMG's account of last November's fiasco.
Interesting contrast between the two, dont you think?
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

DolfanBob

21 officers make up 2 million in salaries ? And there are about 900 of them.
And this city wonders why it's broke.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Red Arrow

Quote from: DolfanBob on December 27, 2011, 08:26:24 AM
21 officers make up 2 million in salaries ? And there are about 900 of them.
And this city wonders why it's broke.

I doubt it's all in salaries.  Recurrent training, patrol cars(buy/maintain/operate), and benefits probably add a good chunk of $ to the cost of each officer.
 

RecycleMichael

The current budget for Tulsa police department has $68,870,000 in payroll and benefits for 780 sworn officers. It works out to $88,295 per officer.

There is also $13 million for capital equipment, supplies, etc.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

RecycleMichael

Power is nothing till you use it.

Teatownclown

The Big Lie
Dec 26, 2011 12:00 AM EST
Wall Street has destroyed the wonder that was America.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/12/25/wall-street-has-destroyed-the-wonder-that-was-america.html

Quote"At the end of the day, the convulsion to come won't really be about Wall Street's derivatives malefactions, or its subprime fun and games, or rogue trading, or the folly of banks. It will be about this society's final opportunity to rip away the paralyzing shackles of corruption or else dwell forever in a neofeudal social order. You might say that 1384 has replaced 1984 as our worst-case scenario. I have lived what now, at 75, is starting to feel like a long life. If anyone asks me what has been the great American story of my lifetime, I have a ready answer. It is the corruption, money-based, that has settled like some all-enveloping excremental mist on the landscape of our hopes, that has permeated every nook of any institution or being that has real influence on the way we live now. Sixty years ago, if you had asked me, on the basis of all that I had been taught, whether I thought this condition of general rot was possible in this country, I would have told you that you were nuts. And I would have been very wrong. What has happened in this country has made a lie of my boyhood."

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend



'Occupy Wall Street' Participation To Earn Class Credit At Columbia U.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/01/new-class-at-columbia-focuses-on-occupy-wall-street/

QuoteNEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Columbia University will offer a new course for upperclassmen and grad students next semester. An Occupy Wall Street class will send students into the field and will be taught by Dr. Hannah Appel, a veteran of the Occupy movement.

The course begins next semester and will be divided between class work at Columbia's Morningside Heights campus and fieldwork that will require students to become involved with the Occupy movement outside of the classroom.

The course will be called "Occupy the Field: Global Finance, Inequality, Social Movement" it will be run by the anthropology department.


guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Ed W

Quote from: Townsend on January 02, 2012, 12:09:41 PM

'Occupy Wall Street' Participation To Earn Class Credit At Columbia U.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/01/new-class-at-columbia-focuses-on-occupy-wall-street/


I wonder why the class is under the anthropology department rather than sociology or even political science.

Kudos to the university for deciding to study an emerging political movement that could have historical impact.  Imagine for a moment, that we had first-hand information on the beginnings of such political groups as the Whigs, Tories, Know Nothings, or even our present political parties.  You may disparage it all you like, but there's no telling what will be valuable historical information a decade or a century from now.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

guido911

Quote from: Ed W on January 02, 2012, 02:22:42 PM
I wonder why the class is under the anthropology department rather than sociology or even political science.



Isn't the anthropology department where Cro-magnon & Neanderthals are studied? There ya go.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.