Is The Occupy Wall Street Movement an Answer to The Tea Party Movement?

Started by Gaspar, October 03, 2011, 09:20:46 AM

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Townsend

Everyone already knows the answer to; "Who would be so stupid?".  It's whoever best helps their argument.

Whatever the answer, it was a bad idea.

patric

Quote from: AquaMan on January 30, 2012, 01:31:07 PM
Frankly, I think a lot of these "dirty tricks" guys like Segretti, did this stuff for fun and still do. Because they can. The others truly fear that something may come of these demonstrations and feel its better to be safe than sorry. Guys like the Watergate bungler/burglars.

If you ever read "All The Presidents Men" you might be familiar with the term "Ratfu@&ing"

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on January 30, 2012, 02:08:16 PM
Should be interesting to see how the thousands and thousands of arrests, millions and millions in damages, and all the other bizarre activity gets explained away as conspiracy.

I mean, these poor OWS folks had no idea what the signs they were carrying meant, or even the background on the symbology they adopted.  What a grand and fantastical conspiracy.  The 99% effortlessly fooled by the 1% to do their bidding.

The straw men, they keep the crows away?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

AquaMan

Buggery? I had no idea there was buggery going on. I don't subscribe to that. Never did. That's eating bugs...right?
onward...through the fog

Vashta Nerada

Quote from: Gaspar on January 30, 2012, 02:08:16 PM
Should be interesting to see how the thousands and thousands of arrests, millions and millions in damages, and all the other bizarre activity gets explained away as conspiracy.

I wonder what such a coordinated effort might look like ---





President Obama's "position" regarding the NYPD's raid of Zuccotti Park, is that "every municipality has to make its own decision about how to handle" the issues of free speech and the concerns of the community. But according to Rick Ellis at the Examiner, a Justice Department official says that the recent evictions of Occupy movement across the country including Salt Lake City, Denver, Portland, Oakland, and New York City were "coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies."

Ellis reports that his source says though the decision to evict protesters ultimately rested with each individual jurisdiction, the local police departments "had received tactical and planning advice from national agencies" from the feds.

Oakland's mayor Jean Quan told the BBC yesterday that she had participated in a conference call with the leaders of 18 other cities to discuss their shared "situation where what had started as a political movement and a political encampment ended up being an encampment no longer in control by the people who started them."

Mother Jones reports that the US Conferences of Mayors has stated that two conference calls, one on October 13, the morning before the aborted raid on Zuccotti Park, and the second on November 10, were held with "mayors and police top brass." They discussed "issues of concern" and how to "maintain public health and safety" during the occupations. The USCM official "denied that there was any coordination or planning between mayors and police officials about breaking up Occupy protests or tearing down encampments." Mayor Bloomberg denies participating in these conference calls.

The AP reports that another set of conference calls on October 11 and November 14 were organized by the Police Executive Research Forum and included representatives from 40 different cities. A spokesman for the group said that the timing of the calls were "completely spontaneous" and had nothing to do with the recent raids. "This was an attempt to get insight on what other departments were doing." Including the maxim: "Don't set a midnight deadline to evict Occupy Wall Street protesters, it will only give a crowd of demonstrators time to form."

Teatownclown


Gaspar

Quote from: Vashta Narada on January 30, 2012, 08:09:49 PM
I wonder what such a coordinated effort might look like ---





President Obama's "position" regarding the NYPD's raid of Zuccotti Park, is that "every municipality has to make its own decision about how to handle" the issues of free speech and the concerns of the community. But according to Rick Ellis at the Examiner, a Justice Department official says that the recent evictions of Occupy movement across the country including Salt Lake City, Denver, Portland, Oakland, and New York City were "coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies."

Ellis reports that his source says though the decision to evict protesters ultimately rested with each individual jurisdiction, the local police departments "had received tactical and planning advice from national agencies" from the feds.

Oakland's mayor Jean Quan told the BBC yesterday that she had participated in a conference call with the leaders of 18 other cities to discuss their shared "situation where what had started as a political movement and a political encampment ended up being an encampment no longer in control by the people who started them."

Mother Jones reports that the US Conferences of Mayors has stated that two conference calls, one on October 13, the morning before the aborted raid on Zuccotti Park, and the second on November 10, were held with "mayors and police top brass." They discussed "issues of concern" and how to "maintain public health and safety" during the occupations. The USCM official "denied that there was any coordination or planning between mayors and police officials about breaking up Occupy protests or tearing down encampments." Mayor Bloomberg denies participating in these conference calls.

The AP reports that another set of conference calls on October 11 and November 14 were organized by the Police Executive Research Forum and included representatives from 40 different cities. A spokesman for the group said that the timing of the calls were "completely spontaneous" and had nothing to do with the recent raids. "This was an attempt to get insight on what other departments were doing." Including the maxim: "Don't set a midnight deadline to evict Occupy Wall Street protesters, it will only give a crowd of demonstrators time to form."


Do you think perhaps President Obama is mounting this effort against the Occupiers because they make him look bad, or does he simply wish to discredit their peaceful push for democracy?

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Gaspar on January 31, 2012, 07:04:05 AM
Do you think perhaps President Obama is mounting this effort against the Occupiers because they make him look bad, or does he simply wish to discredit their peaceful push for democracy?

Yes
 

Gaspar

Quote from: Red Arrow on January 31, 2012, 07:39:33 AM
Yes

Red, you are obviously part of the conspiracy.

In fact, I doubt Red Arrow is actually your real name.

Кого вы работаете для?
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.


Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Red Arrow

Quote from: Gaspar on January 31, 2012, 09:17:14 AM
All that proves is that you are not Russian!

Not really.  It only proves that I claim to be illiterate in Russian.*

The fact is though that I am not Russian so you made a lucky guess.

 :D

Edit: *Assuming that is actually Russian that you posted.
 

DolfanBob

Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

Gaspar

Quote from: Red Arrow on January 31, 2012, 11:43:40 AM
Not really.  It only proves that I claim to be illiterate in Russian.*

The fact is though that I am not Russian so you made a lucky guess.

 :D

Edit: *Assuming that is actually Russian that you posted.

Assuming that it was a guess!  Put some tape over your webcam.  We're watching you! ;)
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.