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Started by Gaspar, October 05, 2011, 09:34:49 AM

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Townsend

Another poll.  This one likes the jobs bill. 

It also shows an example of why people should learn something before mouthing off "I'm fer-it" or "I'm a'gin-it".

Americans, unlike the Senate, approve of Obama's jobs bill, poll says

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/americans-approve-obama-jobs-bill-unlike-senate-poll-192109731.html

QuoteSenate Republicans Tuesday may have blocked President Obama's jobs bill, but a new poll suggests that's not what a majority of Americans want.

Nearly two-thirds of the respondents to a survey from NBC/Wall Street Journal voiced their approval when pollsters were told them the details of the president's "American Jobs Act"-- including that it would cut payroll taxes, fund new road construction, and extend unemployment benefits. NBC reports that 63 percent of respondents said they favored the bill, with just 32 percent opposing it.

But the numbers for the bill only spike when Americans learn about its provisions in some detail. When NBC pollsters asked for a simple up-or-down appraisal of the bill, minus any policy details, the same group of respondents expressed less than half the level of support that they later showed. "When asked simply if Congress should pass the legislation or not, 30 percent of respondents answer yes, while 22 percent say no; 44 percent have no opinion," according to NBC.

One element of the bill in particular enjoyed wide support--Obama's proposal to remove tax loopholes for the wealthiest Americans. Sixty-four percent of respondents said it is a "good idea" to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations. Thirty-one percent said it was a bad idea.

The poll, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points is set for release Wednesday at 6:30 p.m. ET.

On Tuesday evening, senate Republicans joined together to filibuster the president's jobs bill--denying efforts to begin formal debate on the legislation even though a majority of senators had already voted to advance the bill in a 50-49 vote.

The president first introduced the jobs bill in early September and has since been traveling across the country to make the case for his proposal.





Hoss

Quote from: Townsend on October 13, 2011, 11:18:26 AM
Another poll.  This one likes the jobs bill. 

It also shows an example of why people should learn something before mouthing off "I'm fer-it" or "I'm a'gin-it".

Americans, unlike the Senate, approve of Obama's jobs bill, poll says

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/americans-approve-obama-jobs-bill-unlike-senate-poll-192109731.html





Oh, but guess what, Townie?  Since it's a NBC participated poll, you know it OBVIOUSLY has a liberal slant to it.

::)

Gaspar

#47
Once you actually read the article, it turns out that 30% of respondents said Congress should pass the legislation, 22% said "no it shouldn't" and ... 44% have no opinion.  The plurality of people have either given up caring or are too busy watching Entertainment Tonight to have a clue what this jobs legislation is even about.

If you actually read the bill, you learn that it contains the identical types of projects (almost carbon copy) from the original stimulus bill.  All temporary, infrastructural, and public sector tasks.  Nothing to encourage the private sector to expand.  That is why Republicans and some democrats denied it.  It is not legitimate. It is campaign promise 3.0, and the president knew it would not pass.  

"The People" want real jobs, not green jobs or temporary government projects.  They want the business down the street run by the businessman who lives in their town to hire them with the promise of a career making a product or supplying a service that is needed, valued, and has a future.

Edit:

. . .and let me add that to create private sector jobs is not rocket-science.  Like a houseplant, they grow on their own without government help, you just have to give them with the right atmosphere to grow.

Affordable energy, plenty of room to grow without over-regulation, nutrients in the form access to resources and supply-lines without interference, and don't bogart the water.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on October 13, 2011, 11:53:45 AM
Oh, but guess what, Townie?  Since it's a NBC participated poll, you know it OBVIOUSLY has a liberal slant to it.

There's not much sense in taking a poll you cannot predict to make your point.   ;D
Be careful who you poll.
 

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Townsend

#50
Quote from: Gaspar on October 13, 2011, 01:01:35 PM
Once you actually read the article,

You mean the part where they are told what is in the bill and they are in favor of it?

Using your words, actually read the article.

QuoteBut the numbers for the bill only spike when Americans learn about its provisions in some detail.

Hoss

Quote from: Townsend on October 13, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
You mean the part where they are told what is in the bill and they are in favor of it?

Using your words, actually read the article.


I think I'm going to pass out of not-surprised.

Townsend

Quote from: Hoss on October 13, 2011, 03:38:27 PM
I think I'm going to pass out of not-surprised.

Corky had better reading comprehension.

Hoss

Quote from: Townsend on October 13, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
Corky had better reading comprehension.

It's not so much that as selective reading.  My ex-wife used to say I had selective hearing.  I guess that's why she's my ex-wife.  LOL.

Townsend


Obama Now Attempting To Get Each Word Of Jobs Bill Passed Individually

QuoteWASHINGTON—Following two months of frustrated efforts to push his American Jobs Act through Congress, President Obama announced Monday he was now attempting to have each word of the bill passed individually.

"This is a truly vital piece of legislation that needs to be approved in a bipartisan manner as swiftly as possible, and if that means passing it one single linguistic element at a time, then so be it," the president told reporters, claiming he and Republican lawmakers had already agreed on several synonyms that could be substituted for various controversial modifiers. "We just had a major breakthrough with the third appearance of the word 'it' earlier today, and we all were surprised to find common ground on 'that.' But I must caution Americans that we still have hundreds of key multisyllabic words to get through."

At press time, Congress was reported to be hopelessly deadlocked on the word "taxes."




http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-now-attempting-to-get-each-word-of-jobs-bill,26570/

Red Arrow

Quote from: Townsend on November 07, 2011, 02:11:29 PM
Obama Now Attempting To Get Each Word Of Jobs Bill Passed Individually

After he gets the words approved, he will want to rearrange the words "as required".

;D
 

Teatownclown



Teabaggers/GOP have mottoed up!

Crazy....

Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on November 07, 2011, 03:02:30 PM


Teabaggers/GOP have mottoed up!

Crazy....

He probably could have cut that diatribe in half if he'd wait to puff up until AFTER his broadcast.  FWIW, though not our official motto until the '50's IGWT has appeared on US coins since the mid 1860's.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

dbacks fan

Quote from: Conan71 on November 07, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
He probably could have cut that diatribe in half if he'd wait to puff up until AFTER his broadcast.  FWIW, though not our official motto until the '50's IGWT has appeared on US coins since the mid 1860's.

He's an Air America Refugee, you know, like this guy who's now a Senator:


heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: dbacks fan on November 07, 2011, 03:53:18 PM
He's an Air America Refugee, you know, like this guy who's now a Senator:


Well, he fits in well with all the rest of the clowns.  Hard to differentiate him out of the crowd, actually.

But at least Franken is funny ha-ha, to boot, unlike the other clowns who are just clowns without the funny.  Humor has it's own intrinsic value.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

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