Solyndra

[Gaspar]

So. . .after Mitchell and Kaiser knew that the company was headed towards the shitter, they continued to lobby for the second loan.  The only reason they would do this is to preserve their investment, which was somehow magically agreed to be put before the people's investment in the company.

They continued to pump up Chu so he would blow smoke through Biden's cranial cavity (resulting in orgasm).  Unfortunately, stupid is not a crime and no one really expects a community organizer or his appointees to be very good at business. So unless someone can prove that a member of the administration made it possible for the changes to the loan guaranteeing Kaiser's money before the peoples, Kaiser will be the lone scapegoat for this as I expected.

Certainly sucks for Tulsa, because he's done a lot for this city.

[Hoss]

Samberg is a riot..that video is awesome.  OK, back to the regularly scheduled sniping.

[ex-riverman]

another perspective:
http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Letter_UptonStearns_11.09.11.pdf

[guido911]

another perspective:
http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Letter_UptonStearns_11.09.11.pdf

Good find and informative.

[heironymouspasparagus]

So. . .after Mitchell and Kaiser knew that the company was headed towards the shitter, they continued to lobby for the second loan.  The only reason they would do this is to preserve their investment, which was somehow magically agreed to be put before the people's investment in the company.

Were you at all concerned about Inhofe doing the same thing in $125 million worth of cleanup Picher, OK funds to go to his buddies with a bulldozer?  In such old dollars, that today it would probably be a billion or more...

[Red Arrow]

Were you at all concerned about Inhofe doing the same thing in $125 million worth of cleanup Picher, OK funds to go to his buddies with a bulldozer? 

You are comparing rose bushes with hamburgers.

[Gaspar]

You are comparing rose bushes with hamburgers.

again.

[heironymouspasparagus]

You are comparing rose bushes with hamburgers.

And yet, the comparison is still valid!  But then, who wouldn't want Inhofe to profit dramatically from his decades of pubic...er, uh, public....service.

[Red Arrow]

And yet, the comparison is still valid! 

As valid as a $3 bill with Bill Clinton's picture on it is legal tender. 

(I added the legal tender part because there is a "$3 bill" with Bill's picture on it at the barber shop I go to.)

[nathanm]

Good find and informative.

+1

[Conan71]

Okay, so I'm confused here.  At what point does the content of those emails which were released become null and void?  Are they fabrications?  All I'm reading here is the testimony of Kaiser contradicts the written record of the emails.  Granted, having five different projects going on while reading that may have affected my comprehension.  I'm ADHD like that.

[nathanm]

Okay, so I'm confused here.  At what point does the content of those emails which were released become null and void?  Are they fabrications?  All I'm reading here is the testimony of Kaiser contradicts the written record of the emails.  Granted, having five different projects going on while reading that may have affected my comprehension.  I'm ADHD like that.

It's not that the emails are fabrications, it's that you can make anyone sound like they were saying anything you like if you are sufficiently selective as to which of their words you choose to quote. Without the full story, it's just BS. Much like O'Keefe's escapades, only done by our elected representatives instead of some nutjob child with impulse control issues. As the letter states, there are many other emails that the Chair refuses to release which apparently contradict the Republicans' chosen narrative.

[Conan71]

It's not that the emails are fabrications, it's that you can make anyone sound like they were saying anything you like if you are sufficiently selective as to which of their words you choose to quote. Without the full story, it's just BS. Much like O'Keefe's escapades, only done by our elected representatives instead of some nutjob child with impulse control issues. As the letter states, there are many other emails that the Chair refuses to release which apparently contradict the Republicans' chosen narrative.

Okay, so at what point were they NOT pursuing contacts at the WH to help sell solar panels or to get help with the DOE.  That's the part I'm a little lost on.

[Gaspar]

Really doesn't matter how many other bazzilian emails there are.  These are very clear, reference discussions, dates and people. 

There is really no way to somehow imply that what was clearly stated in these emails is somehow less important than the claims that these statements were never made.

I see a debate on the definition of "is" looming. . .but I doubt that will actually happen.

The administration will cut bait and use Mr. Kaiser as a convenient scapegoat, unless there is communication that surfaces showing that an administration official recommended or approved the modification of the loan.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Okay, so at what point were they NOT pursuing contacts at the WH to help sell solar panels or to get help with the DOE.  That's the part I'm a little lost on.

Mitchell specifically said it was more about getting help selling panels to the government rather than help modifying the loan.

There is a whole lot of missing communication that would be very interesting to read.