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The end of Herman Cain's campaign

Started by RecycleMichael, November 03, 2011, 09:07:17 AM

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RecycleMichael

A fourth woman has spoken up...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/fourth-accuser-urges-herman-cain-come-clean-harassment-193541143.html

A fourth woman has accused Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual harassment--this time in public. Sharon Bialek told reporters in a press conference Monday that Cain groped her and exhibited "sexually inappropriate" behavior toward her when he was head of the National Restaurant Association.

Bialek, a former NRA employee who worked for the association in between 1996 and 1997, said the encounter occurred shortly after she was laid off from the group's education fund in July 1997.

She said she had approached Cain for help in looking for a new job and had traveled to Washington, D.C., where she had dinner with the then-NRA head. She told reporters that upon her arrival in D.C. she discovered that Cain had secretly upgraded her hotel room to a suite.

After dinner, the two were sitting in his car when she claimed he "suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals" and moved her head toward his crotch.

"I was surprised and shocked, and I said, what are you doing? You know I have a boyfriend," Bialek recalled saying. "This is not what I came here for."

Bialak claimed that when she protested, Cain replied, "You want a job, right?

She told reporters Cain backed off after she asked him to stop, and he drove her back to her hotel.

Bialek, who identified herself as a stay-at-home single mom who lives in Chicago and is a registered Republican, said she didn't file a complaint with the NRA in part because she was no longer formally employed by the group--and also because she was "very embarrassed." She was joined at the press conference by her attorney, celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred, who offered sworn affidavits from two friends to whom Bialek spoke shortly after the alleged encounter.

"I was very very surprised and very shocked," Bialek said, adding that she had come forward to be a "face" for women who had been harassed by Cain. "I want you, Mr. Cain, to come clean. Just admit what you did. Admit you were inappropriate to people ... I implore you. Make this right."

The Cain campaign issued a statement denying Bialek's claims.

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false," the campaign said in a statement. " Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone."

Bialek is the fourth woman to accuse Cain of sexual harassment when he was head of the NRA, but she's the only accuser who has spoken publicly.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 07, 2011, 02:50:53 PM
She was joined at the press conference by her attorney, celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred, who offered sworn affidavits from two friends to whom Bialek spoke shortly after the alleged encounter.


I had predicted this.

Should I also be correct in assuming Ms. Bialek and the other accusers to follow will all be white?  What would be more repugnant to white male voters than a black man going after white women, right?  Goes right to the core of their racist little Tea Party egos right?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

dbacks fan

Quote from: Conan71 on November 07, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
I had predicted this.

Should I also be correct in assuming Ms. Bialek and the other accusers to follow will all be white?  What would be more repugnant to white male voters than a black man going after white women, right?  Goes right to the core of their racist little Tea Party egos right?



Gaspar

Quote from: Conan71 on November 07, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
I had predicted this.

Should I also be correct in assuming Ms. Bialek and the other accusers to follow will all be white?  What would be more repugnant to white male voters than a black man going after white women, right?  Goes right to the core of their racist little Tea Party egos right?

Gloria Allred is hitting the talk show circuit tomorrow with her "client" in tow.  The "boyfriend" at the time and father of her child appears to be West Naze, the EVP of a New York marketing firm.  You can bet he will be tapped too for his recollection of the events, and I bet they will be very different from hers.  There are 10 years of court records in Clark County showing an angry battle for child support from him that starts in 1999 with both sides filing paternity suits, and finally ends in an installment agreement in 2009.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Conan71

Quote from: Gaspar on November 07, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Gloria Allred is hitting the talk show circuit tomorrow with her "client" in tow.  The "boyfriend" at the time and father of her child appears to be West Naze, the EVP of a New York marketing firm.  You can bet he will be tapped too for his recollection of the events, and I bet they will be very different from hers.  There are 10 years of court records in Clark County showing a viscous battle for child support from him that starts in 1999 with both sides filing paternity suits, and finally ends in an installment agreement in 2009.

Sounds like they had an "installment" agreement long before 2009.  

Even if she was not an employee at the time of the alleged groping (and therefore did not report this as sexual harassment), what she describes could have easily been reported as a sexual assault to the police.  If she was that horrified and had really been molested, why not call the po-po?

Sorry folks, lawyering up with Gloria doesn't lend much credibility.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

Quote from: Gaspar on November 07, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Gloria Allred is hitting the talk show circuit tomorrow with her "client" in tow.  The "boyfriend" at the time and father of her child appears to be West Naze, the EVP of a New York marketing firm.  You can bet he will be tapped too for his recollection of the events, and I bet they will be very different from hers.  There are 10 years of court records in Clark County showing an angry battle for child support from him that starts in 1999 with both sides filing paternity suits, and finally ends in an installment agreement in 2009.

Such a big ball of meaningless blather . . . without a link to support it. 

Gaspar

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.


Townsend




"BOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG"

"Gong Show baby, one down and two to go."

Teatownclown

Again, there goes that ole "high tech lynching" alibi. Ain't gonna work.

So, are the Teabaggers/GOP that tried to raise Cain looking out for their own self interests or America's? Cain't, what a spazz to fall into that ole white kettle, full of white lies and white magic of control. This guy was never a contender but actually led The Party even though he was never qualified from the git go.

Let's vilify Allred! She's the newest victim?

Red Arrow

Quote from: Gaspar on November 07, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Gloria Allred is hitting the talk show circuit tomorrow with her "client" in tow.  

Wow!  What a surprise.

Well, maybe not.
 

jacobi

IMO, Cain's inability to control his temper and maintain poise may end up costing him more than the harrassment claims.  I wouldn't have voted for the guy anyway, but after I heard the uze-becky-becky-beck-stany-stany-stan comment, I began to miss George Bush.  It was like having a sex dream about a homocidal-psychopath ex-girlfreind with a nervous texas laugh: you wake up screaming.
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nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on November 07, 2011, 03:41:21 PM
If she was that horrified and had really been molested, why not call the po-po?

You are aware that most sexual assaults are never reported, right? The main reasons being the victim's feelings of shame and the knowledge that even if the victim comes forward, they aren't terribly likely to win a conviction. Then you get the troglodytes claiming the victim made it up, was asking for it, and all that other BS. As a society, we treat victims of sexual assault and rape pretty damn poorly. It's no wonder most of the time the victim doesn't even contact police.
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Conan71

Nate, your condescension is un-needed.  Everyone realizes sexual assault does go un-reported.  Her motives to come out now are flimsy at best: "I want to put a face on this for the faceless who can't come forward."  B.S.

She's on CBS right now. At her presser yesterday, she read the entire account from a prepared statement.  Sorry, I'd put a lot more stock in her story if she had clear enough recollection of it to recite it from memory, not a prepared statement drafted by Gloria Alred. 

Is it possible that this could have happened?  Sure, I won't discount that possibility.

Think of the ulterior motives someone might come out for:  Money, narcissism, fame, old grudge because she was fired from NRA.  Yes, I'm aware she's a registered Republican, yet one more thing which makes me skeptical is she thought that was a relevant point to trot out up front make her sound more believable.

There is a lot of quick cash in being a tabloid star.  The whole direction she went with this is highly suspect.  Why did everyone wait until he became a front-runner?

There go ahead and flame me for dirtying up the victim.  This all stinks to high heaven.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Quote from: jacobi on November 07, 2011, 11:06:57 PM
It was like having a sex dream about a homocidal-psychopath ex-girlfreind with a nervous texas laugh: you wake up screaming.

Not every time.