The end of Herman Cain's campaign

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And there would be many women in my past who could come forward to say I refused their offers on the grounds that I was in a committed relationship.

Nobody would care about that.

[Teatownclown]

Nobody would care about that.

You really don't know integrity.... of course, it's something you either have or don't. There's no in between. Which is why Cain't ain't....

[heironymouspasparagus]

Will Rogers was right on with his comment that he was not a member of any organized political party - he was a Democrat.

There was an amazing opportunity squandered here just due to the "herding cats" approach to organizing.  The only thing they had to do to absolutely guarantee that Obama is re-elected was to keep going after all the other 'strawmen' and women on the Republican side and leave Cain alone.  Maybe even support him behind the scenes...

Then when he is nominated as the candidate, bring up everything.  (Same applies with Bachman or Perry, too).

But the kids in the sandbox just can't see ahead that far....

[Gaspar]

It would be not be unimaginable to find moral turpitude for vindictive or manipulative purposes in order to rectify a sociopolitical or psychological personal disorder issue.

And then again I am not running for public office.

And there would be many women in my past who could come forward to say I refused their offers on the grounds that I was in a committed relationship.

"We then left the restaurant in his clown car.  It was crowded in there.  He offered me a flower, and when I reluctantly accepted, it squirted me in the face.  He then pulled my head close and asked me to honk his big red nose."

[heironymouspasparagus]

"We then left the restaurant in his clown car.  It was crowded in there.  He offered me a flower, and when I reluctantly accepted, it squirted me in the face.  He then pulled my head close and asked me to honk his big red nose."

You were there!  You witnessed it all!!  Why don't you do the right thing and come forward to testify!!

[Conan71]

If you are so sure that these repeated scandals won't knock Cain out of the race, take my bet.

Trash the women all you want. When there is this many coming forward, it is hard for most of us to believe his story of innocence.

I'll take your bet.

What did you think about the trashing of the revolving door of Clinton accusers?  Clinton's behavior was tantamount to rape with multiple women and there was physical evidence to support some of the allegations. (i.e. Paula Jones could identify his schwantz).

All we know about Cain is unsubstantiated and uncorroborated claims of inappropriate comments and claims of a physical encounter for which Cain says he would take a lie detector test.  Once Ms. Bialek is no longer useful to whomever engineered this and she's fully discredited, she will fade off into obscurity and I suspect we will hear she was found with a bottle of sleeping pills near her body.

Mr. Cain has the same right to be protected from attacks on his character as these women do.

I've never contributed to a presidential campaign before, but I'm mighty darn close to sending Cain a check.  This sort of trashing of a black conservative male was predictable.  And yes, to be perfectly honest, had this come up in the exact same circumstances on a black Democrat candidate, I'd view it with the same skeptical eye I have this story.  Until someone can come up with corroborating evidence or physical evidence, I'm going to continue to believe the settlements were not unlike what was and has gone on in corporate America since harassment laws were ramped up in the mid '90's.  The bar is so low for proof, it's far easier to settle as soon as someone squeals.  It's easy money for the accuser.  I do appreciate those laws are in place for legit harassment, but they are as abused as personal injury tort.

[Townsend]

I'm pretty sure we would've heard very little about Cain by now if it weren't for these accusations.

His non-existing foreign policy and his less than amazing grasp of the language would've knocked him out of front runner status.

[RecycleMichael]

I'll take your bet.

What did you think about the trashing of the revolving door of Clinton accusers? 

Why does it matter what Clinton did? Is that the republican talking point of the day. Cain might be guilty, but Clinton did it back in the 90s also?

If Cain was a democrat, you would not defend him.

[Gaspar]

I'm pretty sure we would've heard very little about Cain by now if it weren't for these accusations.

. . .his less than amazing grasp of the language. . .

Of what language?

[Townsend]

Of what language?

DIvI' Hol

[Conan71]

Why does it matter what Clinton did? Is that the republican talking point of the day. Cain might be guilty, but Clinton did it back in the 90s also?

If Cain was a democrat, you would not defend him.

Why does it matter?  I simply want to know if you brushed off the claims against Clinton with the same fervor you've assumed Cain's guilt because he's a Republican. 

I most certainly would defend Cain if he were a Democrat.  What's going on here is dirty tricks to bring a man down who has some dynamic ideas on how to move the country forward.  I'm about the truth, not partisan hackery.  Keep in mind, I would have gladly voted for Bill Richardson in the '08 election had he been the nominee.

Let's say the allegations are true.  Does that make him un-fit to lead if he's got great leadership qualities otherwise?  Every presidential candidate and previous president has peccadilloes in their past of one sort or another.  You'd probably be shocked if you knew how many companies have paid out "go away" money in spurious SH claims since the mid 1990's.  It's a common complaint leveled on supervisors and corporate leaders.  Some legit, the majority are blown out of proportion, but they settle anyhow.

[heironymouspasparagus]

What's going on here is dirty tricks to bring a man down who has some dynamic ideas on how to move the country forward.  

Really??  You truly think 9-9-9 is a dynamic idea to move the country forward???

[Gaspar]

Really??  You truly think 9-9-9 is a dynamic idea to move the country forward???

Any reform to simplify the tax code and move the burden towards a use based system will move the country forward.

The alternative is the continuous accumulation of regulation and layers of taxation.

So, yes.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Any reform to simplify the tax code and move the burden towards a use based system will move the country forward.

The alternative is the continuous accumulation of regulation and layers of taxation.

So, yes.

Wow!


I mean, like... wow!

[RecycleMichael]

Let's say the allegations are true.  Does that make him un-fit to lead if he's got great leadership qualities otherwise? 

Yes. It shocks me that you don't see it.

Bill Clinton embarassed America because he couldn't keep his pants on. He knew they were after him and he was so weak that he did it anyway. I would have never voted for him again.

If the allegations are true, Herman Cain should get out of the race.