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[AquaMan]

We don't need no stinkin' common sense! We don't need no experienced moderate types who see both sides and look for solutions. We need NEWT!!

[Gaspar]

We don't need no stinkin' common sense! We don't need no experienced moderate types who see both sides and look for solutions. We need NEWT!!

No, we just don't need Huntsman.  He is not viable as a candidate against President Obama.

The most important thing in this election is to beat President Obama, and beyond that reverse the policies, and practices that have caused the stagnation, and in many cases progression of economic recovery.  Huntsman will not do that. 

We have an Ineptocratic leader with no chance or ability to effectively lead this country.  We do not need another one.

[AquaMan]

You're always amusing. Even when you're serious.

So, the goal is chaos. Did I see you in one of those OWS pics Guido has been posting? Was that you with your bum on the police car?

[Gaspar]

You're always amusing. Even when you're serious.

So, the goal is chaos. Did I see you in one of those OWS pics Guido has been posting? Was that you with your bum on the police car?

You are not making a lick of sense.

The goal is economic recovery.  That can only be accomplished through ending the era of uncertainty, and the policies that caused and are perpetuating it.

Very simple, but if economic recover represents chaos to you, then so be it.

[AquaMan]

You are not making a lick of sense.

The goal is economic recovery.  That can only be accomplished through ending the era of uncertainty, and the policies that caused and are perpetuating it.

Very simple, but if economic recover represents chaos to you, then so be it.

Nice restate. You're goal is to remove Obama. You aren't really republican, but your libertarian leaders just aren't palatable to the general public so you bond to the next closest thing, WINNING!

The economy was in trouble long before O came in, and will be slowly improving for another few years till we get a grasp on what actually happened, what the reasonable solutions are, and how to sell them. Unless of course you chaos types succeed in selling your donkey as a thoroughbred.

[RecycleMichael]

Gaspar...do you really think Gingrinch can beat Obama?

Read this column by Michael Bates...the column is really urging Tom Coburn to run, but I think he speaks what many conservatives think about The Newt.

http://www.batesline.com/archives/2011/12/run-tom-coburn-run.html

[Gaspar]

Nice restate. You're goal is to remove Obama. You aren't really republican, but your libertarian leaders just aren't palatable to the general public so you bond to the next closest thing, WINNING!

That is basically correct.  It's not the WHO that is important at this point.  It is the WHAT.

The economy was going through a cyclical recession compounded by the housing bubble.  There was/is no need for recovery to take a decade.  The singular thing that liberals try, but cannot ignore is the fact that the business climate faces uncertainty, and that uncertainty is a result of policies (mostly the healthcare bill) that make financial forecasting impossible.  Secondary to that there is no platform aside from the mantra of "take from the rich" that President Obama is touting.  There is no private sector jobs plan, or vision offered.  There is only the continued reverence for regulation and re-distribution.

So, again, I say you are indeed correct.  The candidate (whoever he or she is) must be able to eliminate the negative economic factors that are stagnating our economy.  I could care less who they f*^&, or how much they spend on gifts for their wife, or what color underwear they have on.  

The only unfortunate thing is that we will now have to listen to another decade of defending President Carter Obama as a great President, until sometime in 2024 when liberals will finally admit that he was nothing more than a cult of personality.  Gawd!  Today they have announced his new campaign theme for 2012.  Not Hope & Change, certainly not Opportunity. . .it's "Fairness."  I wish that was a joke, but it's not.  That is what we have come to with this man.

[Townsend]

President Carter Obama

That must be the new rallying cry.  I've noticed it regurged lately.

[Gaspar]

Gaspar...do you really think Gingrinch can beat Obama?

Read this column by Michael Bates...the column is really urging Tom Coburn to run, but I think he speaks what many conservatives think about The Newt.

http://www.batesline.com/archives/2011/12/run-tom-coburn-run.html

I read Michael's column yesterday.  Very good.  I don't know who will beat Obama yet.  I really liked Cain, but that didn't pan out well.  Whoever the candidate is, beating President Obama is no longer just a political goal, it's a necessity.

[RecycleMichael]

Per Batesline...

"Newt Gingrich is the leading anti-Romney of the moment. Gingrich has serious character problems, of which his serial polygyny is a mere symptom. (Isn't it ironic that the Mormon in the race, not the Baptist-turned-Cathoic, is the husband of one wife?) As you documented in your book Breach of Trust (and Bob Novak in his autobiography), Gingrich's character flaws extended to his leadership of the House of Representatives. For all his brilliance in the 1994 campaign to retake the House, his failures as speaker turned the Republican caucus from principled reform to careerism for the sake of power, laying the groundwork for the moral collapse of the Republican majority, the Pelosi speakership, the Obama presidency, and our current fiscal crisis.

Beyond his failures as a husband and as a congressional leader, Gingrich is a big-government conservative in an era where government must shrink to make space for private sector can grow. Being a visionary is a fine thing in the private sector, but as a self-proclaimed "Teddy Roosevelt Republican," Newt offers big ideas that depend upon massive government investment and intervention."

[Gaspar]

Per Batesline...

"Newt Gingrich is the leading anti-Romney of the moment. Gingrich has serious character problems, of which his serial polygyny is a mere symptom. (Isn't it ironic that the Mormon in the race, not the Baptist-turned-Cathoic, is the husband of one wife?) As you documented in your book Breach of Trust (and Bob Novak in his autobiography), Gingrich's character flaws extended to his leadership of the House of Representatives. For all his brilliance in the 1994 campaign to retake the House, his failures as speaker turned the Republican caucus from principled reform to careerism for the sake of power, laying the groundwork for the moral collapse of the Republican majority, the Pelosi speakership, the Obama presidency, and our current fiscal crisis.

Beyond his failures as a husband and as a congressional leader, Gingrich is a big-government conservative in an era where government must shrink to make space for private sector can grow. Being a visionary is a fine thing in the private sector, but as a self-proclaimed "Teddy Roosevelt Republican," Newt offers big ideas that depend upon massive government investment and intervention."

And on the other hand we have Romney who changes opinions on a whim.  No candidate is ideal, but the job at hand is the economy, and it's not a particularly difficult one.  Businesses are poised at the starting line waiting for the gunshot.  They have capital, they have demand, they are simply being held back by uncertainty and the promise of increasing cost of production.

You could do it, I could do it, anyone could do it.  President Obama won't do it because it would require the admission of failure.

[RecycleMichael]

I don't believe you. If businesses have the demand, they will fill it or their competition will.

For every businessman you can claim is holding back until we get another President, I can show you a mirror that shows they are missing opportunity.

[Red Arrow]

Per Batesline...

"Newt Gingrich is the leading anti-Romney of the moment. Gingrich has serious character problems, of which his serial polygyny is a mere symptom. (Isn't it ironic that the Mormon in the race, not the Baptist-turned-Cathoic, is the husband of one wife?) As you documented in your book Breach of Trust (and Bob Novak in his autobiography), Gingrich's character flaws extended to his leadership of the House of Representatives. For all his brilliance in the 1994 campaign to retake the House, his failures as speaker turned the Republican caucus from principled reform to careerism for the sake of power, laying the groundwork for the moral collapse of the Republican majority, the Pelosi speakership, the Obama presidency, and our current fiscal crisis.

Beyond his failures as a husband and as a congressional leader, Gingrich is a big-government conservative in an era where government must shrink to make space for private sector can grow. Being a visionary is a fine thing in the private sector, but as a self-proclaimed "Teddy Roosevelt Republican," Newt offers big ideas that depend upon massive government investment and intervention."

It sounds to me that Newt is someone the left and middle left could hold their nose and vote for, even more than the right.  Divorced a few times (I don't think he was actually married to more than one at the same time), not a Baptist anymore, character flaws, careerism for the sake of power, big-government.   What's not to like beyond the "R" behind his name?

[Red Arrow]

I don't believe you. If businesses have the demand, they will fill it or their competition will.

For every businessman you can claim is holding back until we get another President, I can show you a mirror that shows they are missing opportunity.

If the demand is for a $10.00 widget and you don't know if you can get it to market for $9.00 or $11.00, you wait.  I obviously made up these numbers for the example but the principle is there.

[AquaMan]

Gas your ruminations are dreamlike. You must be aware that your business analyses are not shared by the majority of business school grads. Mainly because they are framed by your political structure of thinking. You don't necessarily want what's best for the country, you want whats best for your political outlook. Therefore, you would vote for Satan's son as long as he followed your mantra of trickle down and feed the rich. That is why your party is going through such throes of agony over selecting a leader because your only goal is winning, not taking responsibility for past errors and leading the country out of its doldrums. Run Charlie Sheen for heaven's sake.

Let's take a for instance. Where does Gingrich stand on the Healthcare act (sorry for you cultists, "Obamacare")? Good luck with that. He's been all over the place with its primary features. Your assumption that the business world is holding its breath waiting for its repeal is part of accepted internet dogma. But when I spoke with family members who work for the country's largest health insurer this past holiday guess what? They are scared to death that the work they've spent the last five years preparing for this inevitable change in the way insurance works, will be blown away by ideological Republicans looking to get elected. I was told they have lobbyists frantically working in Washington to make sure these are just electioneering ploys, but they deeply fear they will be knee-capped by the Repubs.

Yes, anecdotal. Put enough anecdotes together and you have a novel.

Look. This is a guy who has been married three times, divorced twice and changed his religion to Catholicism. He cannot commit to anything for very long. He is an agent for paralysis in government. Taught others how to do it.

He is chaos.