Should pseudoephedrine be by prescription only in Oklahoma?

[DolfanBob]

I love cop staged photos. Are those pictures for the criminals or citizens?
Which bag do you think they did the cut and taste test on?
Looks like a bunch of stolen Tide detergent to me.

[AquaMan]

I love cop staged photos. Are those pictures for the criminals or citizens?
Which bag do you think they did the cut and taste test on?
Looks like a bunch of stolen Tide detergent to me.

You mean you question the integrity of the border patrol? Like those danged staged NASA moonwalks.....

[Townsend]

You mean you question the integrity of the border patrol? Like those danged staged NASA moonwalks.....

[patric]

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - The Oklahoma House of Representatives has approved a bill that would limit how much non-prescription cold and allergy medication containing a key methamphetamine ingredient a consumer could purchase.

The measure by Rep. David Derby of Owasso limits not only the powder form but liquid and gel cap forms, which the Drug Enforcement Administration officials say also can be used to manufacture methamphetamines.

Is this the same DEA bureaucracy that forgot they had someone locked in a cell for 5 days?

[DolfanBob]

How do you not hear someone gagging on their own urine?

[Townsend]

How do you not hear someone gagging on their own urine?

I turn up my iPod.

[AquaMan]

Fine. But what if you're one of the impoverished masses who don't have an IPod!! We have to listen to that stuff and its distracting as hell. Am I on the right forum....

[Hoss]

Fine. But what if you're one of the impoverished masses who don't have an IPod!! We have to listen to that stuff and its distracting as hell. Am I on the right forum....

How about a WalkMan?

[Townsend]

How about a WalkMan?

Ooo, with a Men At Work tape.

[AquaMan]

WalkMan. Back when dependable technology ruled. Hell, I never had one of those either. Guess I'll have to do what my teachers did. Act like its not just a dream.

[TheTed]

Where do you guys buy pseudophedrine in Tulsa? I go to Walgreens. They have it in stock maybe 1 out of every 5 trips. Always bought up by the meth cooks before I get there.

When you have to make so many trips just to buy one box, the pitfalls of requiring a prescription (where presumably they'd call you when it's ready to pick up) would be lessened.

So is there a place in Tulsa that regularly has it in stock?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Where do you guys buy pseudophedrine in Tulsa? I go to Walgreens. They have it in stock maybe 1 out of every 5 trips. Always bought up by the meth cooks before I get there.

When you have to make so many trips just to buy one box, the pitfalls of requiring a prescription (where presumably they'd call you when it's ready to pick up) would be lessened.

So is there a place in Tulsa that regularly has it in stock?

Owasso WalMart.  But beware - when you do, they will try to slow you down while they call the police.  And then you will be detained and questioned for 2 to 3 hours.  (True story.)

[DolfanBob]

Just fidget, grind your teeth while looking side to side. You'll be fine.

[patric]

Federal drug czar Gil Kerlikowske told a congressional panel Tuesday that pseudoephedrine sales restrictions and electronic monitoring - the path chosen by the Oklahoma Legislature this year - are showing diminishing effectiveness and have been unable to stop the rise of small methamphetamine labs.

Max Dorsey, a narcotics lieutenant from South Carolina, told lawmakers that the restrictions on the amount of pseudoephedrine that can be bought and a national real-time sales tracking system have been ineffective in battling meth labs in his state.

Earlier this year Oklahoma lawmakers chose just that solution rather than a prescription requirement during an often-heated debate over how to battle meth labs.

[patric]

The Supreme Court tackled part of the mess:

In 2010, the state created the registry to prevent people with meth convictions from purchasing pseudoephedrine products. While the law provided for district court clerks to notify the state of new convictions that would make people subject to the registry's rules, it did not provide for listing people with previous convictions who would also be subject to the law.
It also didn't provide for notifying people who were subject to the law that they would be breaking the law if they purchased pseudoephedrine products.

The Court of Criminal Appeals decision found that people who are subject to the meth registry can't be prosecuted for purchasing pseudoephedrine if they don't know that they would be violating the law.

Wolf had pleaded guilty to five counts of unlawful purchase of pseudoephedrine while subject to the Methamphetamine Registry law, but asked to withdraw her plea, arguing that she didn't know she was breaking the law when she made her purchase. The Oklahoma court sided with her and ordered her conviction dismissed.

"The mere purchase of pseudoephedrine is not a crime, unless one is subject to (the registry law). The wrongdoing was created by Wolf's status as a person subject to the statute. The uncontested record shows Wolf was completely unaware that she was subject to (the law)." Because she didn't know about the law, the conviction was as violation of her due process rights, the Oklahoma court found.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/US_Supreme_Court_upholds_decision_preventing_prosecution/20130610_14_0_TheUSS678959?subj=11