News:

Long overdue maintenance happening. See post in the top forum.

Main Menu

God's Quarterback

Started by guido911, December 11, 2011, 09:11:51 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on December 28, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
He can be, yes.  But just like anyone else, he can also speak truth and be entertaining.
O'reilly?  He's just an out and out jerk.

I don't find Maher entertaining.  My opinion of him closely matches your opinion of O'Reilly.
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 28, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
I don't find Maher entertaining.  My opinion of him closely matches your opinion of O'Reilly.

There you have it.

Maher's a comedian by profession.

I don't think O'Reilly is.  He does make me laugh uncontrollably on occasion though.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on December 28, 2011, 10:22:42 AM
There you have it.

Maher's a comedian by profession.

I don't think O'Reilly is.  He does make me laugh uncontrollably on occasion though.

I was referring to "He's just an out and out jerk."
 

Hoss

#138
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 28, 2011, 10:27:42 AM
I was referring to "He's just an out and out jerk."

I know you were.  I still think that.

I don't know of a liberal commentator today that tries to scream over or pull the mike on someone making an argument the way O'Reilly does.  If there's one, point me in that direction.

Conan71

Quote from: Hoss on December 28, 2011, 10:37:35 AM
I know you were.  I still think that.

I don't know of a liberal commentator today that tries to scream over or pull the mike on someone making an argument the way O'Reilly does.  If there's one, point me in that direction.

Actually, if you ever listen to Hannity, he speaks over liberal callers all the time.  Far worse than O'Really.

And if Maher is a comedian, his humor is lost on me.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on December 28, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
Actually, if you ever listen to Hannity, he speaks over liberal callers all the time.  Far worse than O'Really.

And if Maher is a comedian, his humor is lost on me.

Speaking over is bad.  I'm talking about the way O'Reilly amps up the volume if he feels like he's losing an argument.  That's sandlot crap right there.  But I guess it plays to his viewers.

Townsend

Quote from: Hoss on December 28, 2011, 10:42:25 AM
Speaking over is bad.  I'm talking about the way O'Reilly amps up the volume if he feels like he's losing an argument.  That's sandlot crap right there.  But I guess it plays to his viewers.

"You set him right Billy Billy Billy"


custosnox

They are all pricks trying to push their agenda however they can.

dbacks fan

Quote from: custosnox on December 28, 2011, 12:18:36 PM
They are all pricks trying to push their agenda however they can.

+100

Teatownclown


Teatownclown

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 28, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
I don't find Maher entertaining.  My opinion of him closely matches your opinion of O'Reilly.




Bill!

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 28, 2011, 09:37:36 AM
I believe that Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, and Greta are more respectful of their liberal guests than Maher could have hoped to been with his conservative guests.  JMO.

Maher does not shout over guests. He does a fair job of keeping the rest of the panel from doing so also. He does make disrespectful remarks toward their ideas, but given that such a large fraction of the right's chattering class is content to tell out and out lies (which he often accepts, to my astonishment), I can't really blame him. His audience, on the other hand, are often a bunch of pricks who Maher has to shout down to get them to **** and let the righties speak.

As often as the lies go unchallenged, there seems to be a better chance that said lies will be allowed to be called out on Maher's show than just about any other of the shows involving lefties and righties yelling at each other. Say what you like about the politics of his guests, but most of the time they know their stuff. I just wish he'd stop letting P.J. O'Rourke on because literally every time I've seen him on the show he has said at least 5 things that are factually untrue that aren't told as a joke.

We're all entitled to our own opinions. We are not entitled to our own facts.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on December 28, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
Maher does not shout over guests. He does a fair job of keeping the rest of the panel from doing so also.

It's been a while since I watched him but my memory is guests talking over other guests with Maher's implicit permission.  They may not have raised or lowered mic levels but the result is the same, you can't understand any of them.  Lies.... Two different experts can take the same data and get opposed truths.   Honest, he pushed his nose right into my fist.  And he did it hard enough to hurt my hand.  The right does not have a monopoly on stretching the truth.
 

Hoss

Quote from: Red Arrow on December 28, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
It's been a while since I watched him but my memory is guests talking over other guests with Maher's implicit permission.  They may not have raised or lowered mic levels but the result is the same, you can't understand any of them.  Lies.... Two different experts can take the same data and get opposed truths.   Honest, he pushed his nose right into my fist.  And he did it hard enough to hurt my hand.  The right does not have a monopoly on stretching the truth.

No, but they do it a helluva lot better and more frequently.  My observation, of course, feel free to disagree (which I'm sure you will).  Or maybe it's simply because the right has so many barkers (Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc) that the sheer volume makes it so.

Red Arrow

Quote from: Hoss on December 28, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
No, but they do it a helluva lot better and more frequently.  My observation, of course, feel free to disagree (which I'm sure you will). 

Of course I disagree.  It was merely waiting to see which one of "you guys" spoke up first.  Congratulations! You won.  That and $5. will get you some kind of coffee at Starbucks.