Republicans in Retreat!

[Red Arrow]

I'm not sure about the suffering thing but I think that family might really look forward to having pizza night with the family where no-one cooks and they can all just hang out as a family.
They prob need the internet access so after that, maybe the point was a loss of that fun time together on Friday night.  I'm guessing on that one.

I look forward to flying my plane to visit some cousins in Florida but then I think about the fuel cost alone of somewhere around $1200.  It would really do me some good to see my cousins that I haven't seen in nearly 15 years.   I would also like to visit my sister and some friends in Albuquerque.   By flying my own plane I wouldn't have to put up with (most) of the TSA procedures.  I need a bigger tax cut than 2% to afford to be able to hang out with friends and family I rarely see.

[Townsend]

I look forward to flying my plane to visit some cousins in Florida but then I think about the fuel cost alone of somewhere around $1200.  It would really do me some good to see my cousins that I haven't seen in nearly 15 years.   I would also like to visit my sister and some friends in Albuquerque.   By flying my own plane I wouldn't have to put up with (most) of the TSA procedures.  I need a bigger tax cut than 2% to afford to be able to hang out with friends and family I rarely see.

Well, originally it was a 3.1% cut in place of the 2%.  (Dem plan)


http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/12/07/why-obamas-payroll-tax-cut-extension-is-best-worst-option/

President Obama is proposing a one-year extension and expansion of the tax holiday already in place on the employee share of the payroll tax, cutting it to 3.1% from the 2011 rate of 4.2%. He also proposes cutting the employer share of the tax to 3.1% from 6.2% on the first $5 million of payroll next year; there would be a complete employer payroll tax holiday for companies that grow their payrolls up to $50 million in a year by hiring new workers or raising the salaries of existing workers.

The payroll tax cut has the advantage of immediacy. It puts money in workers' pockets - $2,170 next year for a married couple filing jointly with $70,000 in gross income, according to White House estimates. That's a meaningful tax break, especially in hard times. And, most of the cut would go to middle and low-income workers. That means most of the money likely will be spent, which is good for the economy.

[guido911]

I'm not sure about the suffering thing but I think that family might really look forward to having pizza night with the family where no-one cooks and they can all just hang out as a family.

They prob need the internet access so after that, maybe the point was a loss of that fun time together on Friday night.  I'm guessing on that one.

I have no problem with hanging out with family. I just don't want to subsidize it at the expense of SS/medicare. Now, if you'll excuse me, I am going to have my version of "pizza night" at El Tequila with my family and the in-laws. I will probably spend more than $40.

[nathanm]

Robbing Peter to pay Paul has to end at some point.

I see you're still confused about us being on the gold standard.

[Red Arrow]

Well, originally it was a 3.1% cut in place of the 2%.  (Dem plan)

As long as there is enough of you young guys to pay my way in a few years, sounds good to me.   

[Red Arrow]

I have no problem with hanging out with family. I just don't want to subsidize it at the expense of SS/medicare. Now, if you'll excuse me, I am going to have my version of "pizza night" at El Tequila with my family and the in-laws. I will probably spend more than $40.

At your income level, the payroll tax cut will probably still pay for it.

Say "Thank you Mr. President". 

[guido911]

As long as there is enough of you young guys to pay my way in a few years, sounds good to me.   

We will. The people that are going to be paying for me are out protesting instead of working. 

[Red Arrow]

We will. The people that are going to be paying for me are out protesting instead of working. 

Thank you.

[we vs us]

Merry Christmas (or whatever holiday you observe) Wevsus.

Yep, that'd be Christmas, and thanks for the wishes, RA. Right back atcha.

[Teatownclown]

Ho Ho Ho

[Teatownclown]

Uppityism?

[Townsend]

I'm looking forward to Iowa Day.

Hopefully 3 or 4 will drop out and we can start really looking at whatever the 24/7 news cycle decides to show us about the remaining candidates.

Anyone have bets on who'll remain after Iowa?

[Teatownclown]

It's Mitty the 1%er!

[AquaMan]

Agree with that. The fight is for number 2 and a chance to keep pounding their messages into the process. I say pounding because their messages are not easily absorbed by reasonable people.

Real bottom line here is that Iowa (and a few other states like Okieville)....ain't like the rest of the country. Their importance as a key primary state is diminishing.

[nathanm]

Real bottom line here is that Iowa ain't like the rest of the country.

Great point. They do, after all, let the gays get married. How can they possibly choose a candidate representative of the rest of the country?