Republicans in Retreat!

[Teatownclown]

Tah Dumb! 

The GOP's slip is showing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gops-slip-is-showing/2011/12/22/gIQAnhgPCP_story.html?hpid=z3

This action will have far reaching consequences in this political season. A power play has been made big time and now the destruction of the remnants of the Republican Party are left blowing in the winds of the political wasteland. They have assured the American People four more years of leadership by President Barack Hussein Obama. This is a Victory For Obama but greater still it is a victory for the American Worker, a victory for Social Democracy and victory for the world economy.

As the TeaParty/GOP gets their marginalization due, obstructionism proves it's worthlessness!

All hail to the chief!

[Gaspar]

Amazing how it worked out:

1. The president requests a 12 month extension on payroll tax cuts, and a tax increase on the wealthy.

2. The house passes a 12 month extension on payroll tax cuts, with no tax increase on the wealthy, and the temporary extension is paid for with spending cuts.  No money is robbed from Social Security.  

3. The president openly poo-poo's the plan, and demands that the senate come out with an alternative 12 month extension, and tax increase on the wealthy.

4. The senate Dems come back with a 2 month extension, and the money comes partially out of Social Security, and partially from a tax on new home buyers, and mortgage refinancing.  To get enough support to pass it the Rethuglicans add the approval of a longitudinal Oil pipeline across the United States that would create over 200,000 jobs and drop the cost of energy.  

5. Bill is poo-pooed by the president because it has the pipeline and no tax increase on the wealthy, BUT not because it raises taxes on families trying to buy, refinance, or just stay in their homes, and not because it steals from Social Security, and not because it is only two months.

6. Christmas Vacation looming.

7. Bill very reluctantly passed.

8. President signs a bill that approves the largest pipeline project in over a decade.  Trades a small two month tax cut for a tax increase on people buying homes, and steals money from Social Security.  Gets no tax increase on "those not paying their fair share."  Now has to face the debate again in February when the tax cut is slated to expire again 8 months from the election, where another failure could really hurt him.

President Obama's only victory here is that he passed the first private sector jobs initiative in his three years as president, and he can't tout it, because he doesn't have the spin skills of Bill Clinton.  You can also bet that you won't hear him talking about taking the money from grandma or middle class families trying to buy or refinance their homes.

Nice victory.

[Hoss]

Amazing how it worked out:

1. The president requests a 12 month extension on payroll tax cuts, and a tax increase on the wealthy.

2. The house passes a 12 month extension on payroll tax cuts, with no tax increase on the wealthy, and the temporary extension is paid for with spending cuts.  No money is robbed from Social Security.  

3. The president openly poo-poo's the plan, and demands that the senate come out with an alternative 12 month extension, and tax increase on the wealthy.

4. The senate Dems come back with a 2 month extension, and the money comes partially out of Social Security, and partially from a tax on new home buyers, and mortgage refinancing.  To get enough support to pass it the Rethuglicans add the approval of a longitudinal Oil pipeline across the United States that would create over 200,000 jobs and drop the cost of energy.  

5. Bill is poo-pooed by the president because it has the pipeline and no tax increase on the wealthy, BUT not because it raises taxes on families trying to buy, refinance, or just stay in their homes, and not because it steals from Social Security, and not because it is only two months.

6. Christmas Vacation looming.

7. Bill very reluctantly passed.

8. President signs a bill that approves the largest pipeline project in over a decade.  Trades a small two month tax cut for a tax increase on people buying homes, and steals money from Social Security.  Gets no tax increase on "those not paying their fair share."  Now has to face the debate again in February when the tax cut is slated to expire again 8 months from the election, where another failure could really hurt him.

President Obama's only victory here is that he passed the first private sector jobs initiative in his three years as president, and he can't tout it, because he doesn't have the spin skills of Bill Clinton.  You can also bet that you won't hear him talking about taking the money from grandma or middle class families trying to buy or refinance their homes.

Nice victory.

Maybe he should hire you Scott, since you have the ultimate skills of spinning nothing into something...

[Townsend]

Amazing how it worked out:

1. The president requests a 12 month extension on payroll tax cuts, and a tax increase on the wealthy.

2. The house passes a 12 month extension on payroll tax cuts, with no tax increase on the wealthy, and the temporary extension is paid for with spending cuts.  No money is robbed from Social Security.   

3. The president openly poo-poo's the plan, and demands that the senate come out with an alternative 12 month extension, and tax increase on the wealthy.

4. The senate Dems come back with a 2 month extension, and the money comes partially out of Social Security, and partially from a tax on new home buyers, and mortgage refinancing.  To get enough support to pass it the Rethuglicans add the approval of a longitudinal Oil pipeline across the United States that would create over 200,000 jobs and drop the cost of energy. 

5. Bill is poo-pooed by the president because it has the pipeline and no tax increase on the wealthy, BUT not because it raises taxes on families trying to buy, refinance, or just stay in their homes, and not because it steals from Social Security, and not because it is only two months.

6. Christmas Vacation looming.

7. Bill very reluctantly passed.

8. President signs a bill that approves the largest pipeline project in over a decade.  Trades a small two month tax cut for a tax increase on people buying homes, and steals money from Social Security.  Gets no tax increase on "those not paying their fair share."  Now has to face the debate again in February when the tax cut is slated to expire again 8 months from the election, where another failure could really hurt him.

President Obama's only victory here is that he passed the first private sector jobs initiative in his three years as president, and he can't tout it, because he doesn't have the spin skills of Bill Clinton.  You can also bet that you won't here him talking about taking the money from grandma or middle class families trying to buy or refinance their homes.

Nice victory.

Can you cite these?  Has he signed it yet?  Very reluctantly by whom?

[Gaspar]

Can you cite these?  Has he signed it yet?  Very reluctantly by whom?

The House

[RecycleMichael]

No gaspar.

The victory isn't the past, it is the present. Today, republican leaders look played.

Every media outlet is carrying the story. They all have the same storylines. The Tea Party is weakened, Boehner is on his way out, and Obama is flying to Hawaii for vacation.

You should be thankful that Senate republicans convinced House republicans to cave before it got worse.

[Townsend]

The House

The house?  All of them?  Do you mean just the reps who didn't show up to object like they'd tweeted last night?

[Gaspar]

No gaspar.

The victory isn't the past, it is the present. Today, republican leaders look played.

Every media outlet is carrying the story. They all have the same storylines. The Tea Party is weakened, Boehner is on his way out, and Obama is flying to Hawaii for vacation.

You should be thankful that Senate republicans convinced House republicans to cave before it got worse.

Oh, I am, and you are right on every count.

My point is that when you look at what was asked for and what was passed, you wonder who won?

Will Liberals see beyond the delicious politics, and realize that they were just delivered a pile?

They got a bill that opposes, almost everything they stand for. 

It taxes the poor, helps bankrupt granny's medicare, builds oil pipelines, leaves the rich untouched, oh. . .and I almost forgot, It's also extends Doc Fix so that evil-rich doctors get to keep more of their income.

[Teatownclown]

Oh Gassie, there's no wonder. There's just a failed tactic of obstructionism with deep roots in racism. And this was just another battle in this new era civil war. And it's not class warfare either. Just can't wait til Mitt gets fitted with the fact that he is a %1er. Landslide has started.

Reagan raised taxes eleven times as President. 

[Townsend]

Oh, I am, and you are right on every count.

My point is that when you look at what was asked for and what was passed, you wonder who won?

Will Liberals see beyond the delicious politics, and realize that they were just delivered a pile?

They got a bill that opposes, almost everything they stand for. 

It taxes the poor, helps bankrupt granny's medicare, builds oil pipelines, leaves the rich untouched, oh. . .and I almost forgot, It's also extends Doc Fix so that evil-rich doctors get to keep more of their income.

The social liberals aren't subject to the cult of personality syndrome many of the social conservatives have been fed by a very successful "news" organization.

Most know the politicians have no-one's back.

What website are you pulling this stuff off of?

[Red Arrow]

Just can't wait til Mitt gets fitted with the fact that he is a %1er.

Which of our Presidents have not been a 1%er?

Edit:
The present one certainly is.

Today, the President released his 2010 federal income and gift tax returns. He and the First Lady filed their income tax return jointly and reported an adjusted gross income of $1,728,096. The vast majority of the family's income is the proceeds from the sale of the President's books. The Obamas paid $453,770 in total federal tax.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/18/president-obama-and-vice-president-biden-s-tax-returns-and-tax-receipts

[Teatownclown]

Which of our Presidents have not been a 1%er?

Edit:
The present one certainly is.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/18/president-obama-and-vice-president-biden-s-tax-returns-and-tax-receipts

And he earned it.....unlike Mitty

[joiei]

Which of our Presidents have not been a 1%er?

Harry Truman was probably the closest to not being a 1%er.  Just a guess. 

[AquaMan]

Gas, your penchant for spin and the ommission of facts to build the constructs necessary to justify the overt hatred of Obama, Dems and Liberals is probably what loses conservatives the presidency and control of congress.  You have drawn the wrong conclusions because every thing to you guys is winning or losing.

Meanwhile the general population (outside of Iowa) draw a different conclusion and are baffled by Tea Partiers and conservatives who have succeeded in painting themselves as favoring cuts for the rich yet not the average guy. Whether that is true or not, the intransigence of the TPers is their demise.

BTW, all those terrible things you allege Obama just did to old folks, and libs....is only for two months!! This gets taken up again when they return. Hopefully those dummies in the house will have sealed their demise by electing a new, dummie leader or will learn to follow leaders with more experience.

[we vs us]

Oh, I am, and you are right on every count.

My point is that when you look at what was asked for and what was passed, you wonder who won?

Will Liberals see beyond the delicious politics, and realize that they were just delivered a pile?

They got a bill that opposes, almost everything they stand for.  

It taxes the poor, helps bankrupt granny's medicare, builds oil pipelines, leaves the rich untouched, oh. . .and I almost forgot, It's also extends Doc Fix so that evil-rich doctors get to keep more of their income.

You're not entirely wrong, but that's gotten lost in the spectacular failure of the GOP to keep its caucus together.  It's been good TV, honestly, and that's overshadowed the truth of the bill.  

It was also good TV for another reason:  it very graphically proved how unwilling the Tea Partiers are to compromise with the Dems and Obama, even if the Dems and Obama bend over backwards to make a deal work.  Which, as you say above, is essentially what happened.  The TP Rump of the House won't give Obama a win under any circumstances, whether it's good for the country or not, whether it even fits their own ideology or not.  

All of this proved that the Tea Party agenda contains only one concrete plank:  screw Obama no matter what.