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Phony "Fugitive Task Force" Busted

Started by patric, January 01, 2012, 01:19:36 PM

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nathanm

Eh, you can still buy all the stuff you need for that from Radio Shack. They've just shoved it all into a cramped little room reminiscent of the back room at a video store. The only thing missing to complete the effect is a curtain.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

patric

#16
Quote from: custosnox on January 02, 2012, 11:39:41 AM
Yet another to add to the list of reasons why Bounty Hunters need to be licensed in this state.


Bounty hunters kicked in the door of a woman in her 70s in West Tulsa last week. Once inside, they realized they had the wrong address.
The elderly woman was terrified and had no idea who the men were. But that wasn't the worst of it. She learned something about the two men from police that made her upset.

Mary was about to take a bath last Wednesday night when someone began banging on her front door.
"He said, 'you better open the door. I told you we were bounty hunters,'" Mary said. "I said, 'you could tell me you're anybody.'"

He kept demanding and threatened to kick in the door. So she called 911. She asked the dispatcher if she could put the phone down long enough to get her gun, but was told to stay on the line.
Just then, two men kicked in her back door.

"I could hear the wood crushing," Mary explained. "It was scary."
The men came in and looked through her house. They demanded to know where Donnie was. But she repeatedly told them she lived alone and didn't know a Donnie.

That's when they realized their mistake.
"He said, 'is this 124?' I said, 'no, it's not 124," Mary said. "'My letters are on my mailbox in big white letters. You couldn't have missed it.'"
The two men left with barely a word, leaving her backdoor still broken with a big footprint on it.
Police found the three bounty hunters and realized two of them, Ronnie Shaw and Cecil Deere, had warrants out for their arrests. So they were booked into jail.

All three men got tickets for breaking and entering without permission.

"That ain't right to be looking for somebody else, kick in someone's door in to get that person," Mary said. "And here you've got two warrants out on yourself and your friend with you."
Mary believes bounty hunters should be licensed and bonded. In hindsight, she's glad she didn't have her gun, because she believes she would've killed them.

The bondsmen who wanted the fugitive said he didn't know the three men. He said they just called and offered to pick up the guy for him, which is pretty standard.  He was shocked to learn they had warrants, and one of the men had served eight years in prison. He believes bounty hunters should be licensed, like bail bondsmen are.

An Oklahoma senator proposed a law last year and this year, but both bills died.
  http://www.newson6.com/story/18391006/bounty-hunters-arrested-after
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Townsend

Quote from: patric on May 14, 2012, 11:38:47 PM

"Police found the three bounty hunters and realized two of them, Ronnie Shaw and Cecil Deere, had warrants out for their arrests. So they were booked into jail.

All three men got tickets for breaking and entering without permission.

"That ain't right to be looking for somebody else, kick in someone's door in to get that person," Mary said. "And here you've got two warrants out on yourself and your friend with you."
Mary believes bounty hunters should be licensed and bonded. In hindsight, she's glad she didn't have her gun, because she believes she would've killed them.

The bondsmen who wanted the fugitive said he didn't know the three men. He said they just called and offered to pick up the guy for him, which is pretty standard.  He was shocked to learn they had warrants, and one of the men had served eight years in prison. He believes bounty hunters should be licensed, like bail bondsmen are.

An Oklahoma senator proposed a law last year and this year, but both bills died.
  http://www.newson6.com/story/18391006/bounty-hunters-arrested-after
Watching Bounty Hunter shows and Fox news and deciding there's a job to do is never a good call for a felon.

patric

#18
Quote from: Townsend on May 15, 2012, 10:39:47 AM
Watching Bounty Hunter shows and Fox news and deciding there's a job to do is never a good call for a felon.
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All three men got tickets for breaking and entering without permission.


It must be tempting, if they think worst that can happen with a home invasion is getting a ticket.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

godboko71

Oh but licencing would cost money and might limit who can be a bounty hunter, you know kind of the same thing with rent-a-cops. Silly state, lets regulate alcohol but not who can break into your house or have a gun at the megalomart.
Thank you,
Robert Town

custosnox

Quote from: godboko71 on May 16, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Oh but licencing would cost money and might limit who can be a bounty hunter, you know kind of the same thing with rent-a-cops. Silly state, lets regulate alcohol but not who can break into your house or have a gun at the megalomart.
Security guards do have to be licensed, and I would be happy if they at least required bounty hunters to get a PI license, since that is essentially what they do, except they also take the person in once they find them.  Of course, a bounty hunter is the same as any other person, so if they kick in your door they can be charged with B&E and have a civil suit brought against them.  The problem is people seem to think that BHs are immune to such recourse so don't even bother trying to pursue it.  As far as the carry laws, you do realize there is a licensing process and a background check involved, right?

godboko71

Glad sarcasm is still hard to read online. Thought maybe the megalomart might be a clue.
Thank you,
Robert Town

patric

TULSA, Oklahoma - A Tulsa bounty hunter is on the Tulsa Police Most Wanted List. Adam McAdoo is wanted for kidnapping.
According to victims, Adam McAdoo will approach people with warrants, tell them they need to pay money to him or he will take them to jail. He then pockets the money instead of taking it to the bail bondsmen.

Dietrick Mure says he was in his apartment when Adam McAdoo started banging on his door. He said McAdoo claimed to be a bounty hunter and said Mure was wanted by police.

"He said 'you either pay $600 right now, or we take you to jail,'" Mure said. "So I said, 'I can give you $600 and the bench warrant will be cleared?' And he said 'yes it will be cleared.' He drove me to the QuikTrip by the police station, had me take out money from the ATM."


Got to wonder how these people have access to warrant information...
Anyway, he's already booked and released, and "Dog the Bounty Hunter" was cancelled on the network formerly known as "Arts and Entertainment".
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Red Arrow

Quote from: patric on June 03, 2012, 11:02:47 AM
TULSA, Oklahoma - A Tulsa bounty hunter is on the Tulsa Police Most Wanted List. Adam McAdoo is wanted for kidnapping.

So will other bounty hunters now be trying to get him or is there a "code" among bounty hunters?
 

custosnox

Quote from: patric on June 03, 2012, 11:02:47 AM

Got to wonder how these people have access to warrant information...

OSCN is a great start, and if they are working for the bondsman, they get the info from them as well.
Quote from: Red Arrow on June 03, 2012, 11:37:36 AM
So will other bounty hunters now be trying to get him or is there a "code" among bounty hunters?
No, no code.  His personal buddies, if he has any that are hunters, likely won't go after him, but the rest don't care. 

patric

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Quote from: custosnox on June 03, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
No, no code.  His personal buddies, if he has any that are hunters, likely won't go after him, but the rest don't care.  

Maybe, maybe not:

Lenny Biggers has been doing this for almost thirty years. But the trained private investigator doesn't call himself a bounty hunter. Instead, he's a "fugitive recovery investigator."

"I don't want to see him get hurt," Biggers said. "I just want to see him in jail where he belongs. He's given this industry a real bad name."
"Every time we go out to make an arrest and we call law enforcement out, they're not wanting to help us, due to the fact of all the bad guys out here robbing people doing this job," Biggers said.

Biggers is making it his mission to bring down McAdoo and to try to get a bill passed that will require hunters to be licensed.


There's an odd extralegal relationship between police and bounty hunters / repo men.  You see it when their names are kept out of police reports (and other professional courtesies), so the PI referenced above may be upset that the "amateurs" are souring that relationship.  
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

custosnox

Quote from: patric on June 03, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
Maybe, maybe not:

Lenny Biggers has been doing this for almost thirty years. But the trained private investigator doesn't call himself a bounty hunter. Instead, he's a "fugitive recovery investigator."

"I don't want to see him get hurt," Biggers said. "I just want to see him in jail where he belongs. He's given this industry a real bad name."
"Every time we go out to make an arrest and we call law enforcement out, they're not wanting to help us, due to the fact of all the bad guys out here robbing people doing this job," Biggers said.

Biggers is making it his mission to bring down McAdoo and to try to get a bill passed that will require hunters to be licensed.


There's an odd extralegal relationship between police and bounty hunters / repo men.  You see it when their names are kept out of police reports (and other professional courtesies), so the PI referenced above may be upset that the "amateurs" are souring that relationship.  
What I meant about them not caring was they generally don't care if the person they are going after is a hunter, they go after them anyhow.

patric

Tulsa police arrested a suspect they say posed as a police officer and took money from someone on Saturday.

Police say Adam McAdoo identified himself as a police officer at the Bristol Park Apartments and then took money from the victim around 11 on Saturday night.
McAdoo is a former Tulsa's Most Wanted. In May he turned himself in on charges of kidnapping, extortion and possession of a firearm. In 2011, he told FOX23 he was a bounty hunter and had capture nearly 3,000 criminals in 8 years.

http://www.fox23.com/content/crime/story/Tulsa-police-arrest-suspected-impersonator/SGWM8gmLu0WBI3MTyQy4fw.cspx
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

DolfanBob

Well he does look like a donut eating Tulsa Police Officer. Who would question a guy like that?
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