2012 Political Predictions

[Red Arrow]

If it would have been you or me at that airport in Texas doing what he did, our paper would have been pulled.  I admit some of his skills *were* good in the past, but the incident in Texas, then his subsequent evasion of the consequences a normal pilot would have received after that incident is what really left me sour on his current ability as a pilot.  Let's not forget he's in his late 70s now.

Some good came of it though.  I saw Inhofe's bill to require access to FAA records to a pilot accused of an infraction was passed by Congress and Pres. Obama signed it.

Also, a few weeks ago I was out flying about and flew over Shawnee.  I had checked the NOTAMS on an area check and didn't notice any runway closures.  There was a big X at the south end of the runway but not at the north.  Thinking of Inhofe's situation, I flew on by and rechecked the NOTAMs when I got home.  It turns out that only the south portion of the runway was closed and I could have landed on the north part.  There was construction equipment on the south part of the runway which I could have easily flown over in the Cessna but would I have been arrested if I did?  The point is that it is not too hard to miss some details on the NOTAMs. 

[Hoss]

Some good came of it though.  I saw Inhofe's bill to require access to FAA records to a pilot accused of an infraction was passed by Congress and Pres. Obama signed it.

Also, a few weeks ago I was out flying about and flew over Shawnee.  I had checked the NOTAMS on an area check and didn't notice any runway closures.  There was a big X at the south end of the runway but not at the north.  Thinking of Inhofe's situation, I flew on by and rechecked the NOTAMs when I got home.  It turns out that only the south portion of the runway was closed and I could have landed on the north part.  There was construction equipment on the south part of the runway which I could have easily flown over in the Cessna but would I have been arrested if I did?  The point is that it is not too hard to miss some details on the NOTAMs. 

Even if Shawnee is non-controlled, isn't there still an FSS frequency you can call to verify while in flight?  In absence of the NOTAMs?  Or would you have to call the center (in your case that should be Fort Worth).

[Red Arrow]

Even if Shawnee is non-controlled, isn't there still an FSS frequency you can call to verify while in flight?  In absence of the NOTAMs?  Or would you have to call the center (in your case that should be Fort Worth).

How often would you call FSS?  Every 10 minutes?  More often?

If a school zone speed limit starts after you enter the zone (the lights were not flashing when you entered the zone) you are still responsible to be only going the school speed limit.  At least I have heard that.

[heironymouspasparagus]

If election is the only criteria as you say, then there should be no complaints about Inhofe.....

But since it is not the only criteria, there are plenty of complaints about Inhofe. 

[Hoss]

How often would you call FSS?  Every 10 minutes?  More often?

If a school zone speed limit starts after you enter the zone (the lights were not flashing when you entered the zone) you are still responsible to be only going the school speed limit.  At least I have heard that.

Wow, what's up your rear these days?  If you see something that you don't have a NOTAM on and need clarification, wouldn't you, as a responsible pilot, be remiss in NOT calling them?

I was simply asking a question because it's been over 8 years since I've been flying and one of the things I had heard was that many of the FSS stations (specifically the one in MLC) would be shutting down.  I didn't know if it had happened or not.  I actually took the tour in 2003 with my pilot friend when we flew down to MLC one day.

Sheesh.  Lighten up Francis.

[Red Arrow]

But since it is not the only criteria, there are plenty of complaints about Inhofe. 

And complaints about Obama.

[Red Arrow]

I was simply asking a question because it's been over 8 years since I've been flying and one of the things I had heard was that many of the FSS stations (specifically the one in MLC) would be shutting down. 

That was not the tone I read in your previous post, particularly regarding the posts before that.  Yes, you can call FSS.  There are often remote FSS facilities at VORs.  Well, you can call on the radio unless you are flying something without a radio. My plane has one but there are still a bunch of puddle jumpers out in the country that don't.  I know of several that operate out of RVS with just a handheld radio. A transponder is not required at RVS but they do like it a lot more if you have one.  I was getting the impression that you thought everyone should have a full Garmin glass cockpit. 

The frequency of calling FSS and the school speed zone example were intended to show that just saying someone should know something can be taken to an extreme.  Maybe you would have been less offended if I wrote "How often should someone..."  I was not singling you (as in you personally, Hoss) out.

You can lighten up too. 

[Hoss]

That was not the tone I read in your previous post, particularly regarding the posts before that.  Yes, you can call FSS.  There are often remote FSS facilities at VORs.  Well, you can call on the radio unless you are flying something without a radio. My plane has one but there are still a bunch of puddle jumpers out in the country that don't.  I know of several that operate out of RVS with just a handheld radio. A transponder is not required at RVS but they do like it a lot more if you have one.  I was getting the impression that you thought everyone should have a full Garmin glass cockpit. 

The frequency of calling FSS and the school speed zone example were intended to show that just saying someone should know something can be taken to an extreme.  Maybe you would have been less offended if I wrote "How often should someone..."  I was not singling you (as in you personally, Hoss) out.

You can lighten up too. 

My apologies then.

I will admit sometimes that NOTAMS (as printed) can be a little like reading your physician's handwriting on a prescription.  I get on airnav.com to see if I can decipher them sometimes.  It's an art and frustrating at that...

[heironymouspasparagus]

And complaints about Obama.

Absolutely!  Haven't you seen my complaints about Blobama??  Come on...if we are gonna have a discussion, you gotta read the posts.  My complaints for him are NOT from the body of lies and BS the RWRE spew ad nauseum.  And while I don't like Obama much, I don't like the lies on the extreme right, either.  (Goes to my extreme moderate tendencies and inclinations.)

The fundamental liberties he wants to interfere with are my big bit$h with him.  In particular, the 2nd Amendment.  Way before his 2008 campaign, he made plenty of comments about gun ownership as being something to be interfered with in this country.  Just because he has been quiet recently does not mean he has abandoned the quest - he is waiting for the opportune time.  His associations with the groups dedicated to the removal of firearms in this country are at the very least indicators of an internal inclination.

I have very similar complaints about Baby Bush for his actions specifically related to the "Lack of Patriotism Act".  He and the Congress were complicit in this 'grab' of personal liberties.  They are all guilty as far as I am concerned.  Also, why I go on so much about voting out incumbents pretty much no matter what.

[Red Arrow]

Absolutely!  Haven't you seen my complaints about Blobama??  Come on...if we are gonna have a discussion, you gotta read the posts.  My complaints for him are NOT from the body of lies and BS the RWRE spew ad nauseum.  And while I don't like Obama much, I don't like the lies on the extreme right, either.  (Goes to my extreme moderate tendencies and inclinations.)

The fundamental liberties he wants to interfere with are my big bit$h with him.  In particular, the 2nd Amendment.  Way before his 2008 campaign, he made plenty of comments about gun ownership as being something to be interfered with in this country.  Just because he has been quiet recently does not mean he has abandoned the quest - he is waiting for the opportune time.  His associations with the groups dedicated to the removal of firearms in this country are at the very least indicators of an internal inclination.

I have very similar complaints about Baby Bush for his actions specifically related to the "Lack of Patriotism Act".  He and the Congress were complicit in this 'grab' of personal liberties.  They are all guilty as far as I am concerned.  Also, why I go on so much about voting out incumbents pretty much no matter what.

Gun ownership is about the only thing I remember you posting in disagreement with the left.  Your constant harping about the RWRE is your personality as I perceive it from your posts.  I have some major disagreements with Obama's method of obtaining what sometimes are reasonable goals when only examined at the highest level and the simplest definition.  For example, I think pretty much everyone thinks the rich should pay more tax than the poor.   Beyond that it all goes to he!!.

[Red Arrow]

I will admit sometimes that NOTAMS (as printed) can be a little like reading your physician's handwriting on a prescription.  I get on airnav.com to see if I can decipher them sometimes.  It's an art and frustrating at that...

Have you ever tried to read a patent to make sure you are not violating it?  It can be about like that.  If all else fails call 800WxBrief for a personal briefing.  I usually get someone out of DFW area but sometimes from other places.  Some are familiar with the Tulsa area.  Some are not.  I think you need a medical to get a password to log on to DUATS.

Which tab are you using to get NOTAMS on Airnav?  I didn't see them.

[Hoss]

Have you ever tried to read a patent to make sure you are not violating it?  It can be about like that.  If all else fails call 800WxBrief for a personal briefing.  I usually get someone out of DFW area but sometimes from other places.  Some are familiar with the Tulsa area.  Some are not.  I think you need a medical to get a password to log on to DUATS.

Yes, you do need a medical.  I no longer have one.  My friend I think let his expire as he's no longer current.  He was well off enough though that he had a pretty spiffy software package that could parse the data from DUATS and he could file flight plans via that software as well, although he always called FSS to verify they had it before we started the preflight inspection.  Can't remember the name of the software offhand.  I remember he was thrilled to use it when he finally got his instrument paper and he filed a full IFR flight plan from RVS to AMA and actually felt like it was worth it because for about 8 minutes we were 'in the soup'.  So weird to be flying at altitudes that didn't end with '500'.   

[Hoss]

Which tab are you using to get NOTAMS on Airnav?  I didn't see them.

Some of the general airport infos are bad enough.  However I do see that you can get them here:  https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/

PIREPS can be nearly as bad when they're coded.

[Red Arrow]

So weird to be flying at altitudes that didn't end with '500'.   

You can avoid that by staying below 3000' AGL.   I usually do unless I'm actually going somewhere. 

My longest low level flight was in the early 80s with my dad going to Santa Fe, NM to pick up a plane for someone else.  The headwinds up high were, shall we say brisk.  I don't remember being above about 1500 AGL.   Coming back a day later the winds were still there so up to 10,000 MSL we (now a flight of two) went.  Of course that wasn't really all that high until we got over eastern NM and the TX panhandle.  We stopped at Amarillo for the evening.  There was a pretty good cross wind on the ground.  AMA approach asked if we wanted to go to the other airport but we said no.  As we got to the FBO, some ground personnel came out to hang on to the wing struts.  I was glad to be in a tricycle gear plane that day.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Gun ownership is about the only thing I remember you posting in disagreement with the left.  Your constant harping about the RWRE is your personality as I perceive it from your posts.  I have some major disagreements with Obama's method of obtaining what sometimes are reasonable goals when only examined at the highest level and the simplest definition.  For example, I think pretty much everyone thinks the rich should pay more tax than the poor.   Beyond that it all goes to he!!.

I have explained about my apparent bias against the RWRE in the past - I reiterate...in recent times (last 30 years or so) they extremist right has been more effective at advancing their radical agenda.  And it is done with a tapestry of lies, misdirection, and distortions.  It has more adversely affected our personal freedoms (Patriot Act, etc)  Continuous warfare for flimsy excuses and massive lies.  

Throughout the late 60's and all the 70's, I have a friend who is LWRE (left wing reactionary extremist) who I had similar discussions with.  From an apparent 'opposite' side.  He was just as wrong as the RWRE is today.  And even at the height of the heyday of left wing "hippie" types, they were never as effective as the RWRE has been.  And for the most part, they just stated their beliefs/convictions/etc without lying about their rationalization.  They were wrong, but they didn't try to lie about it to cover the reality of their wrongness.

I believe in a balanced budget except under exceptional conditions (like current economic times or warfare).  And I keep wondering what happened to all the "balanced budget amendment" talk - another RWRE lie saying they supported such a thing.

Miscellaneous thoughts;
I believe in people working to get paid.  Welfare as a safety net does not bother me all the much.  Sitting around for that money does.  If someone gets welfare, put them to work doing something.  There are an unlimited number of opportunities to do some work to benefit the city/county/state/fed in exchange for that money.  Anything from sweeping streets, to picking up trash along the highways, putting books in order at the library, painting the Civic Center, <insert a wide variety of things here>.  No work - no money.  These tasks can be scaled to the physical abilities of the people involved.  Could even structure these things as career training opportunities.  I could even see volunteer work for Salvation Army, Food Bank, John 3:16 or something like that as 'qualified' welfare work.  Almost anything that gives some benefit to the society providing the money.  Seems like I remember the art deco museum TheArtist has is a non-profit...his place could use some janitorial work, painting, etc, I suspect.