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Started by Teatownclown, January 02, 2012, 03:07:25 PM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on September 28, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
$37.50 a month for 40 years is $18,000. My SO's non-generic BCP (when she was on it) was $45 a month, but the insurance company paid $40 of it.

(I don't disagree that it's a silly way to put it, but I don't agree that it's factually incorrect)

Tell me again how much it costs to raise a kid and how birth control is more expensive than raising a kid.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 28, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
Tell me again how much it costs to raise a kid and how birth control is more expensive than raising a kid.

If you can raise a child on $450 a year, I commend you.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on September 28, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
If you can raise a child on $450 a year, I commend you.

My point exactly.  If you cannot afford to raise a child, you should pay for contraception.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 28, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
My point exactly.  If you cannot afford to raise a child, you should pay for contraception.

And if you can't afford it, don't have sex, right?
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

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Quote from: nathanm on September 28, 2012, 10:24:35 PM
And if you can't afford it, don't have sex, right?

You expect me to pay for your having sex?  Gimme a break.

Edit:
It's bad enough that I will have to help pay for the education of the potential results of your having sex.
 

nathanm

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 28, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
You expect me to pay for your having sex?  Gimme a break.

That attitude is precisely why we have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the nation.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on September 28, 2012, 11:08:39 PM
That attitude is precisely why we have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the nation.

How is that? Talk about false equivalence. You've been off your game this last week.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on September 28, 2012, 11:24:26 PM
How is that? Talk about false equivalence. You've been off your game this last week.

What, you think that you can wish away the reality of biology? Giving people contraceptives is a hell of a lot cheaper than imprisoning unwanted children that become criminals. Call me a pragmatist.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on September 28, 2012, 11:26:51 PM
What, you think that you can wish away the reality of biology? Giving people contraceptives is a hell of a lot cheaper than imprisoning unwanted children that become criminals. Call me a pragmatist.

Well maybe we should put rubber boundaries on the edge of every lane so that people can drive faster then. Or give everyone A's in school.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

Hoss

Quote from: erfalf on September 28, 2012, 11:52:05 PM
Well maybe we should put rubber boundaries on the edge of every lane so that people can drive faster then. Or give everyone A's in school.

Holy crap....

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on September 28, 2012, 11:52:05 PM
Well maybe we should put rubber boundaries on the edge of every lane so that people can drive faster then. Or give everyone A's in school.


We are putting concrete barriers up in the median and along the shoulder in many places.

We live in a bumper car world.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Quote from: erfalf on September 28, 2012, 11:52:05 PM
Well maybe we should put rubber boundaries on the edge of every lane so that people can drive faster then. Or give everyone A's in school.

You're not alone in wanting to cut off your nose to spite your face. Somewhere around 40% of the country agrees with you.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

erfalf

Quote from: nathanm on September 29, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
You're not alone in wanting to cut off your nose to spite your face. Somewhere around 40% of the country agrees with you.

Explain the difference. Where does it stop. If we as a society make it easier for people to continue reckless behavior, how is that good for society?
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: erfalf on September 29, 2012, 12:05:11 AM
Explain the difference. Where does it stop. If we as a society make it easier for people to continue reckless behavior, how is that good for society?


You were allowed to go to business school - in spite of all the well know adverse effects of that for many decades in this country...how is THAT good for society??

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

erfalf

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 29, 2012, 12:07:05 AM

You were allowed to go to business school - in spite of all the well know adverse effects of that for many decades in this country...how is THAT good for society??



There is a benefit to society... arguably.  ;)

Edit: And a benefit to myself.
"Trust but Verify." - The Gipper