2012 Political Predictions

[nathanm]

Explain the difference. Where does it stop. If we as a society make it easier for people to continue reckless behavior, how is that good for society?

What's reckless about having sex? Do I detect moral opprobrium, or am I just reading too much into that?

Not having children until you are ready is the opposite of reckless.

[erfalf]

What's reckless about having sex? Do I detect moral opprobrium, or am I just reading too much into that?

Reading too much into it. 

[heironymouspasparagus]

There is a benefit to society... arguably.  

Edit: And a benefit to myself.

Actually.... no.  There is none to society.  Only to yourself.

[erfalf]

Actually.... no.  There is none to society.  Only to yourself.

Because stuff sells itself. Seriously. If it's a joke, fine. If not, you need to get over your hatred for Business majors.

[Hoss]

Wow.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2012-09-27/story/call-clay-county-gop-obama-muslim-wholl-take-away-medicare

Especially laugh at the part where she says 'if you could get out and watch Fox News'... and her referencing Obama's 'socialistic' agenda.

Riot!

[Red Arrow]

That attitude is precisely why we have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the nation.

No, a lack of personal responsibility is the reason.

[patric]

Cant believe no one has posted this yet.
Relatively safe for work (i.e., F-bombs bleeped out)
It's Samuel L Jackson, so it is what it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY

Even if you dont agree with the message, the video is well done.

[nathanm]

No, a lack of personal responsibility is the reason.

When you have a problem, there are at least two ways to deal with it. One is to fume at people's refusal to do what you want, and the other is to help them make better decisions by providing them the tools that allow them to do so. Who needs schools when kids can just educate themselves? After all, we have libraries that they could use if they weren't so damned lazy!

[Red Arrow]

When you have a problem, there are at least two ways to deal with it. One is to fume at people's refusal to do what you want, and the other is to help them make better decisions by providing them the tools that allow them to do so.

In the case of teen pregnancies, better sex education, including the cost and responsibility of raising a child, would help and somewhere along the line someone should teach them personal responsibility.  They can pay for their own condoms.  I know you cannot stop biology but if the kids were aware of how it really works, they could make informed decisions. 

[heironymouspasparagus]

Because stuff sells itself. Seriously. If it's a joke, fine. If not, you need to get over your hatred for Business majors.

I don't hate business majors (I have a kid that is one...) - what I hate is the way the "Harvard School of Business mentality" has taken over the collective consciousness of the US and much of the world, and somehow convinced people that if we just treat all government activity as a business, all will be well.  BS.


Value to society...hmmm, well, I guess there is value in selling people the idea that they should use 3 billion water bottles a year...versus a reusable container.  Or buy some 800 calorie hamburger from McDonald's. 

[TulsaRufnex]

I don't hate business majors (I have a kid that is one...) - what I hate is the way the "Harvard School of Business mentality" has taken over the collective consciousness of the US and much of the world, and somehow convinced people that if we just treat all government activity as a business, all will be well.  BS.


Value to society...hmmm, well, I guess there is value in selling people the idea that they should use 3 billion water bottles a year...versus a reusable container.  Or buy some 800 calorie hamburger from McDonald's.  

I blame marketing propaganda... Freud... or more directly, his nephew... oh... and... "Torches of Freedom" (0:11:30)...  

The Century Of The Self

[nathanm]

In the case of teen pregnancies, better sex education, including the cost and responsibility of raising a child, would help and somewhere along the line someone should teach them personal responsibility.  They can pay for their own condoms.  I know you cannot stop biology but if the kids were aware of how it really works, they could make informed decisions. 

I agree that does make a big difference, but availability of contraceptives has also proven to be important.

[Red Arrow]

I agree that does make a big difference, but availability of contraceptives has also proven to be important.

I agree that contraceptives should be available.  I also think the user should pay for them.  Treatments for a medical condition should be treated like any other prescription medicine.

[nathanm]

I also think the user should pay for them.

Should men have to pay for Viagra if the ED isn't causing any other medical issues?

I agree that in an ideal world, everybody would be responsible enough to avoid doing the nasty if they couldn't afford the condoms or whatever. However, that not being the world I inhabit, I'd prefer to not pay for raising the kids that result from their irresponsibility when a few bucks worth of given away contraceptives helps people make the right decision. Planned Parenthood actually gives away a lot of contraceptives, but there's obviously only so much one organization can do, especially when many on the right are trying their level best to get them shut down even where they don't provide abortion services.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Should men have to pay for Viagra if the ED isn't causing any other medical issues?

Yes.  Absolutely.  But the old white guys making the rules made it so insurance has to pay for it.  Go figure....