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Buffett's Doublespeak On Taxes

Started by Conan71, January 27, 2012, 10:07:05 AM

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Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Is that what that was?  I thought you farted.

Your vote always counts, Townsend.  It puts you in the process.  Of course Oklahoma will never be a pivotal state in a national election, or at least not in our lifetime.

That too.

Process of what?  So the media can gloss over our state and say, "ha, look, they actually voted."?

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on January 27, 2012, 12:34:08 PM
That too.

Process of what?  So the media can gloss over our state and say, "ha, look, they actually voted."?

Dude, knock it off.  I'm on a roll.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Red Arrow

Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Your vote always counts, Townsend.  It puts you in the process.  Of course Oklahoma will never be a pivotal state in a national election, or at least not in our lifetime.

Voting enables the right to complain.
 

Townsend

Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 12:41:23 PM
Dude, knock it off.  I'm on a roll.

I'm trying to reduce the amount of time watching the political stuff on the 24/7 so I can stop being so negative.  It really is depressing.

AquaMan

Jews in concentration camps complained. Not a big right on my list.

Must be nice to be from a relevant state.
onward...through the fog

Townsend

Quote from: AquaMan on January 27, 2012, 12:44:41 PM

Must be nice to be from a relevant state.

No kidding.  At least AZ's governor made a show of his visit.  Our governor would piddle herself and have a narcoleptic fit.

Conan71

Quote from: Townsend on January 27, 2012, 12:46:58 PM
No kidding.  At least AZ's governor made a show of his visit.  Our governor would piddle herself and have a narcoleptic fit.

Blagojevich had narcissistic fits.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Townsend

Shortey would try to feed him dead baby.

Breadburner

 

Townsend

Quote from: Breadburner on January 27, 2012, 01:07:26 PM
That's illegal now....!!!

I don't think he covered individuals.  Just all the corporations putting dead baby in their products.

Strange since Oklahoma is working on building a surplus of dead baby with the new health insurance rules. 

http://tinyurl.com/76e8glc
 
QuoteOklahoma now requires that babies otherwise eligible for coverage in the child-only market remain uninsured. Contributor Sarah Wildman asks why the state has prioritized insurers' demands over the well being of its newborns...

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
And you want to know why I say Mr. Buffett is disingenuous?


Because you are completely avoiding the fact that he has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders to find and use every little nook and cranny of the tax code!  As you know, if he didn't, then he would be held responsible to those same.

There is no moral conflict nor hypocrisy when he uses the tax code the way it has been defined that he is required to use it, and also say that it needs fixin'.  Another point in the "as you already know" category.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Townsend on January 27, 2012, 12:52:53 PM
Shortey would try to feed him dead baby.

But that is gonna be illegal here...
"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 10:52:20 AM
It simply shows Buffett as being a useful tool in class warfare.  Obama and his cronies don't really care about raising taxes, they simply want to frame an argument about the evil rich getting all the breaks on the backs of the working poor to retain power.  Buffett being compliant makes him one of the "nice" rich I suppose.

That was awesome, conflating Buffett and Berkshire like that. It makes for a much more difficult argument once someone notices, though.

TBH, I don't know what Obama cares about. I know I care about the fact that the forms of income the super rich are more likely to earn are taxed lower than the forms that everyone else earns.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on January 27, 2012, 02:44:40 PM
That was awesome, conflating Buffett and Berkshire like that. It makes for a much more difficult argument once someone notices, though.

TBH, I don't know what Obama cares about. I know I care about the fact that the forms of income the super rich are more likely to earn are taxed lower than the forms that everyone else earns.

So it's perfectly okay by you if people conflate the issue of Romney and Bain?

How is it conflating when the major and very hands-on stakeholder in one of the largest PEF's advocates for higher taxes on one hand and employing schemes to lower them on another?  I thought the idea is to overcome the massive deficits and debt, unless the whole idea is for people like Buffett to pay more taxes so the underclasses can feel better.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan