Changes to Tulsa's residential trash system

[RecycleMichael]

2 carts @ $44 ($88+interest) 2 $100,000 dollar trucks with crews following each other, trash  for health purposes must be bagged  before carted to curb. With no increase in cost to those natives on very limited incomes.       What a barging !!!!!!!!

First of all, the trash trucks cost way more than $100,000 each.

Secondly...yes, the costs are projected to be about the same. I currently pay $13.44 for trash and another $2 for recycling. That amount is being subsidized to the tune of about a dollar a month. The new rates are projected to range from $13.50 for the smallest cart and recycling to $16.52 for the biggest cart and recycling.

I think those natives (and the other fine citizens of Tulsa) can afford an 8 cent increase, even if they are on very limited incomes. With the smallest cart, why, those citizens could even save a few dollars a month!

Thirdly...I don't know what "barging" is, but it sounds fun.

[shadows]

First of all, the trash trucks cost way more than $100,000 each.

Secondly...yes, the costs are projected to be about the same. I currently pay $13.44 for trash and another $2 for recycling. That amount is being subsidized to the tune of about a dollar a month. The new rates are projected to range from $13.50 for the smallest cart and recycling to $16.52 for the biggest cart and recycling.

I think those natives (and the other fine citizens of Tulsa) can afford an 8 cent increase, even if they are on very limited incomes. With the smallest cart, why, those citizens could even save a few dollars a month!
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Was using the $100,000 truck cost from a friends who operated some trash routes said the truck he bought a couple a years ago set him back $96,000 dollars.

Love the use of projected total cost.   PROJECTED cost in Tulsa for a new service means open your billfold and I will take out what I need or we will turn your water off.    Right?

[shadows]

Or the moon and New York City

I was assigned by a creator to the area of Tulsa.   Each time I move the city annexes that area.  Soon as they annex OC and that area I suppose Ill try another state.  If there is a sign that money might be on the moon then  Tulsa will annex it.

[RecycleMichael]

a creator?

[Hoss]

a creator?

I'm thinking now the illness wasn't flesh-eating.  Brain-eating is more likely.

[AquaMan]

I was assigned by a creator to the area of Tulsa.   Each time I move the city annexes that area.  Soon as they annex OC and that area I suppose Ill try another state.  If there is a sign that money might be on the moon then  Tulsa will annex it.

You don't like the area the creator assigned to you? Perhaps each time you move the creator assigns Tulsa the task of making sure his original assignment is accomplished. In that case it is you who is forcing Tulsa to keep annexing.

For everybody's sake, stay planted where you are and do the creator's bidding!

[Red Arrow]

For everybody's sake, stay planted where you are and do the creator's bidding!

Yeah, what he said.

[shadows]

I'm thinking now the illness wasn't flesh-eating.  Brain-eating is more likely.

There is no question that it did not affect the nerve and immune systems

[Hoss]

There is no question that it did not affect the nerve and immune systems

Maybe no question to you...

[nathanm]

Maybe no question to you...

Watch out for the double negatives, they can lead one to the wrong conclusion.

Also, pancakes am I supposed to do with the 65 gallon trash cart I already own?

[Hoss]

Watch out for the double negatives, they can lead one to the wrong conclusion.

Also, pancakes am I supposed to do with the 65 gallon trash cart I already own?

I'm holding off on buying a new one (the 50 gallon one I currently have takes a full week to fill, and has a hole from the heat and constant abuse by TRI -- but I have had it for almost five years).  If we are to have carts, let the city pay and track them.  That way, if someone steals mine, they can RFID those bad boys.

[shadows]

If it ain't broken don't fix it.  The Tuesday's TW give a list of the new ordnances the council, with legal say needs to be passed to fix the trash ordinance in effect presently.

The two cart system will be a drain on the working poor, the retirees, pensioners and social SS recipients.
The requirement that all trashed be bagged in an added expense to this group who are on very limited incomes.
Increasing taxes to pay for the carts or transferring the money from an account where it was not needed. 
It must come from somewhere.
If one wants twice a week trash pickup it is only a few dollars more.
(Twice a week pickup would be rerunning the same route two times weekly)
Two crews also will be needed?
What will be the cost to the taxpayer be if only one person in a block wants twice weekly pickup? 
Limit the time the carts can sit beside the street while some handicap citizens depend to other persons to move the trash buggies to the street.
Define the position and distance it is to set beside the street.
Add or transfer six present trash employees into code enforcement. (Are these not needed presently?)
More hundred thousand dollars trucks will be needed.

It is the same old song "Get a city contract and the extras you can add is where the profit is".

Recycle the tin cans.  (China in the 30's built mini steel mills throughout their land, and like grandma keeping the pinch of dough for yeast for the next mix.) The production of steel requires a part of refined steel.)  Japan bought our scrap to build their war effort which lead theoretically our defeat at the battle of Mid-way.

I am looking at an aluminum mill that was coined when the sales tax was promoted.  On one side it reads "For old age assistance."  Today it is to hell with old age assistance we need that to support the bureaucracy.  Today we consider ourselves as Dooh Nibor that is reverse to Robin Hood which is robbing the poor and giving it to the rich.   


     

[Hoss]

If it ain't broken don't fix it.  The Tuesday's TW give a list of the new ordnances the council, with legal say needs to be passed to fix the trash ordinance in effect presently.

The two cart system will be a drain on the working poor, the retirees, pensioners and social SS recipients.
The requirement that all trashed be bagged in an added expense to this group who are on very limited incomes.
Increasing taxes to pay for the carts or transferring the money from an account where it was not needed. 
It must come from somewhere.
If one wants twice a week trash pickup it is only a few dollars more.
(Twice a week pickup would be rerunning the same route two times weekly)
Two crews also will be needed?
What will be the cost to the taxpayer be if only one person in a block wants twice weekly pickup? 
Limit the time the carts can sit beside the street while some handicap citizens depend to other persons to move the trash buggies to the street.
Define the position and distance it is to set beside the street.
Add or transfer six present trash employees into code enforcement. (Are these not needed presently?)
More hundred thousand dollars trucks will be needed.

It is the same old song "Get a city contract and the extras you can add is where the profit is".

Recycle the tin cans.  (China in the 30's built mini steel mills throughout their land, and like grandma keeping the pinch of dough for yeast for the next mix.) The production of steel requires a part of refined steel.)  Japan bought our scrap to build their war effort which lead theoretically our defeat at the battle of Mid-way.

I am looking at an aluminum mill that was coined when the sales tax was promoted.  On one side it reads "For old age assistance."  Today it is to hell with old age assistance we need that to support the bureaucracy.  Today we consider ourselves as Dooh Nibor that is reverse to Robin Hood which is robbing the poor and giving it to the rich.   


     

You need to stop hanging out with the Cabbage.  Seriously.

[shadows]

You need to stop hanging out with the Cabbage.  Seriously.

...

A lot should wake up in the real world before it is too late.

No nation has ever taxed the poor and increased its economy.   

[Townsend]

Japan bought our scrap to build their war effort which lead theoretically our defeat at the battle of Mid-way.

So are you saying we now lost at Midway?