Santorum claims Obama has "a different theology." Like what? Voodoo?

Started by Teatownclown, February 19, 2012, 01:38:40 AM

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carltonplace

Santorum is trying to work his way up from stridently conservative to morbidly conservative.

Ed W

Please remember that the voices inside my head are much more powerful than the voices inside your head. 

That goes a long way toward explaining the last two thousand years of western civilization.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Jammie

Quote from: Hoss on February 19, 2012, 10:23:12 PM
I don't hope for it, because I agreed with many of the 'old' GOP's ideals.  The new GOP however, has turned into a mish-mash of panderers and nut-jobs willing to say anything to coddle favor with the 'flavor-of-the-week' conservative movement (i.e. Tea Partiers).

Exactly! I spent most of my life voting Republican, but don't even recognize that party anymore. There's nothing that is helping the Democratic party more then seeing what the Republican party has become.
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Conan71

Quote from: Jammie on February 20, 2012, 06:59:27 PM
Exactly! I spent most of my life voting Republican, but don't even recognize that party anymore. There's nothing that is helping the Democratic party more then seeing what the Republican party has become.

It's not making the Democrat party any more attractive to me.  It's leaving me hoping that perhaps moderates who have traditionally identified themselves as "centrist" Dems or GOP's will recognize each other's similarities rather than their differences and perhaps a real, legit third party that is more in line with my thinking (and the other 60% or so of voters who identify as "moderate") would emerge.

One can hope, right?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Teatownclown

Quote from: Conan71 on February 20, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
It's not making the Democrat party any more attractive to me.  It's leaving me hoping that perhaps moderates who have traditionally identified themselves as "centrist" Dems or GOP's will recognize each other's similarities rather than their differences and perhaps a real, legit third party that is more in line with my thinking (and the other 60% or so of voters who identify as "moderate") would emerge.

One can hope, right?

what part of "We're dumb, but we're not stupid"  don't you get?

Red Arrow

 

Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

BKDotCom

I though "Rick Santorum" was a pseudonym being used by Joel Osteen.
Can anyone prove they're not the same person?

Edit: Ha - I just found http://bradley1969.blogspot.com/2006/11/separated-at-birth-joel-osteen-rick.html

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on February 20, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
It's not making the Democrat party any more attractive to me.  It's leaving me hoping that perhaps moderates who have traditionally identified themselves as "centrist" Dems or GOP's will recognize each other's similarities rather than their differences and perhaps a real, legit third party that is more in line with my thinking (and the other 60% or so of voters who identify as "moderate") would emerge.

It's mathematically impossible to have a stable third party with first past the post elections. Our political system will continue to be broken until such time as we reform our elections and districting in a serious way, and even that might not do the job itself.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Jammie

Our entire election system confuses me. Our Territories get to vote in the primary, but not in the general election. Then we have a beauty contest caucus in Missouri where no one has anything to gain at the moment. Then we have states where delegates are divided up by the percentage of votes each candidate gets. Other states it's "Winner take all." It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Adopt an older pet. Help them remember what it feels like to be loved.

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on February 21, 2012, 01:03:11 PM
It's mathematically impossible to have a stable third party with first past the post elections. Our political system will continue to be broken until such time as we reform our elections and districting in a serious way, and even that might not do the job itself.

Let's say punting is no solution.  What do you propose in the manner of reforms and gerrymandering er districting?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on February 21, 2012, 04:17:41 PM
Let's say punting is no solution.  What do you propose in the manner of reforms and gerrymandering er districting?

Some sort of preference voting and a shortest splitline algorithm for generating the districts. You can't gerrymander math.

"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Teatownclown


TheArtist

Quote from: Conan71 on February 19, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
"In June 2011, Santorum said he would continue to "fight very strongly against libertarian influence within the Republican party and the conservative movement."[144] In an NPR interview in the summer of 2005, Santorum discussed what he called the "libertarianish right," saying "they have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do. Government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulation low and that we shouldn't get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn't get involved in cultural issues, you know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world, and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can't go it alone..."[145]"


It's a Wiki reference, but f*ck you Rick, you sanctimonious POS.

"...and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can't go it alone.."

Sounds like that horrible "Nanny State" I hear talk of.

Oh wait oh wait oh wait... I think I get it now INDIVIDUALS can't go it alone, it's CORPORATIONS that can go it alone.  If your a corporation polluting the air and water making people less healthy the government should stay out of the way, but if your and individual who wants to say, buy a bottle of wine on Sunday or take a "day after" pill, then you need to be "regulated" and protected from your bad choices. 
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

swake

Quote from: Jammie on February 21, 2012, 04:14:33 PM
Our entire election system confuses me. Our Territories get to vote in the primary, but not in the general election. Then we have a beauty contest caucus in Missouri where no one has anything to gain at the moment. Then we have states where delegates are divided up by the percentage of votes each candidate gets. Other states it's "Winner take all." It just doesn't make any sense to me.

That's not "our" election system. That's the Republican party's election system which can vary state by state due to state government election laws and state Republican party election rules.

The Democratic party is the same, but is not having a contested election.